Right welcome everyone we are coming out of closed session from our special city
council meeting which started at five P.M.
. We had one item conference with the labor negotiators per Government Code Section
five four nine five seven point six two items arcade
a Police Association and management mid management confidential employees
negotiators Randy Mendoza Internet de Mello and we have nothing to report out of
closed session so we will now adjourn the special city council meeting and convene
our regular city council meeting will be starting with the flag salute which will
be led by the Girl Scout junior troop one zero six two three
we have some Girl Scouts here. Please come forward.
Please join me in the Pledge of Allegiance.
Of the United States of America. Just stands one nation under
God. Justice for.
Thank you let's give them
a round of applause thank. You.
That brings us to Rob Call me we please have
a roll call us Mayor Brinton president vice mayor Wheatley here council member
Stillman council member Winkler here council member no us here our President
thank you. We are now on ceremonial matters item
a proclamation in recognition of Girl Scout week March tenth through the sixteenth
two thousand and thirteen and that will be read by council member Alex Stillman.
As
a former Girl Scout I look forward to doing this in recognition of Girl Scout week
March tenth two The sixteenth two thousand and thirteen whereas on March twelfth
one thousand twelve the first girl scout meeting was held in Savannah Ga Ga led by
Juliette Gordon Low and whereas throughout its long and distinguished history Girl
Scouting has inspired millions of girls and women with the highest ideals of corps
courage confidence in character and Girl Scout increases girls' awareness of
opportunities available to them today in math science sports technology and other
fields that can expand their horizons. And where as through Girl Scout troop Girl
Scouting girls grow strong gain self-confidence and leadership skills and learn the
lifelong lessons of contributing to their communities and whereas there are more
than three point eight million Girl Scouts nationwide who look to fifty million
women who are former Girl Scouts as living proof of the impact of this amazing
movement now therefore be proclaimed at the city council of the city of Arcadia
here by designates the week of March tenth two sixteenth two thousand and thirteen
as Girl Scout week and applauds Girl Scouting commitment to developing
a leadership skills of America's girls dated March twenty ninth two thousand and
twelve I was going to say nine hundred twelve. Would have been
a long time ago twenty thirteen signed by mere Britain and it's going to be
accepted by Janine.
Thank.
I would just like to think the city of Arcadia on behalf of the Girl Scouts for
this proclamation and also ending the cookie season and for everyone that supported
our troops in buying the share so I think you.
I think all those cookies we had
a good time eating them and we just wonder we better be watching how long
a few of those made their way to City Hall and yeah I had some thin mints out it
are to live in very good thank you so that brings us to ceremonial matters
proclamation designating March twenty fourth through the thirtieth two thousand and
thirteen tsunami awareness week and that will be read by council member Michael
Winkler whereas the city of Arcadia recognizes the potential threat of tsunami
events to coastal communities and where as historically these have adversely and
sometimes tragically affected California's north coast and whereas it is most
important that the citizens of Arcadia be informed of the proper action to take
during that tsunami event and whereas the state of California the National Weather
Service and the county of humbled commemorate the anniversary of the one thousand
nine hundred sixty four Alaska tsunami by testing their ability to issue its
tsunami warning. Now therefore be it proclaimed that the city council of the city
of Arcadia hereby recognizes that we could March twenty fourth the thirtieth twenty
thirteen should be prepared this week and encourages its just and to participate in
local Toonami awareness and education programs dated March twentieth two thousand
and thirteen inside buy or mirror printed. And this will be accepted by our city
manager Randy Mendo said that he and.
Could I say
a few words yes sir Dan. Larkin our.
Director asked if we could if I could mention to the council that there's
a tsunami warning communications test on Wednesday March twenty seventh between
eleven A.M.
And noon and it's in the Del Norte humble Mendocino counties and there will be
interruptions of television broadcast radio stations and the activate the no
weather radios and also the outdoor sirens so in some areas you may hear the
sound of the tsunami siren or you may hear an airplane testing its public relations
public address system in some of the communities now we know that our kaita has is
going to be having
a tsunami siren that will be activated not in time for this but we will have
a tsunami siren that will be available to warn people in the northern Humboldt Bay
and south G.
For instance you know people using the marsh areas you know we don't want to have
the tsunami siren go to the areas that are not in the tsunami inundation zones so
their kid
a siren will be in place for people that are in the inundation area. So anyway this
is
a test and we want to encourage everybody to stop in and take notice of this when it
occurs on March twenty seventh between eleventh and eleven and twelve. Thank you.
Next we have
a proclamation and recognition of Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans Day March thirtieth
two thousand and thirteen and that will be read by Vice Mayor Mark we really are.
Proclamation in recognition of Welcome Home Vietnam Veterans Day March thirtieth
two thousand and thirteen whereas the United States participated in the Vietnam War
from about one thousand nine hundred sixty one when U.S.
Armed Forces advisors arrived in Southeast Asia to help the South Vietnamese
through March thirtieth one thousand nine hundred three when our combat troops
withdrew from Vietnam until the capture of Saigon by the North Vietnamese Army in
one thousand nine hundred five. And whereas at the peak of the United States'
involvement in the war in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine proximately five
hundred forty three thousand American troops were serving in Vietnam and whereas
more than fifty eight thousand United States troops lost their lives in Vietnam and
more than three hundred thousand U.S.
Armed force members were wounded three to four million Vietnamese from both the
south and the north as well as one point five to two million Laotians and
Cambodians also died in the war. And whereas the Vietnam War was an extremely
divisive issue among the people of the United States upon their return home members
of the United States armed forces who bravely served our country were caught in the
crossfire of public debate about our country's involvement in the war and whereas
it was not until one nine hundred eighty two almost
a decade after the wars in that
a memorial in our nation's capital was dedicated to those members of the United
States armed forces who died or were declared missing in action in the Vietnam War
And whereas on September twenty fifth two thousand and nine Governor Arnold
Schwarzenegger signed California Assembly Bill seven one seven establishing March
thirtieth of every year to be welcome home Vietnam Veterans Day A.B.
Seven one seven encourages all California public schools to observe this day by
learning about the sacrifices Vietnam veterans made to protect our country's
freedoms and about the importance of helping Vietnam era veterans readjust to
civilian life now their. For be it proclaimed that the city council of the city of
Arcadia hereby proclaim smarts thirtieth of every year to be welcome home Vietnam
Veterans Day in Arcadia the Council on or Vietnam War veterans for their extreme
sacrifice both in Southeast Asia and at home and expresses profound gratitude for
their faithful service to our country signed
a day by Mayor Bratton and I believe Alan Baker with V.F.W.
Two five four two is here. Thank you.
On behalf of all the Vietnam veterans who did not serve no Kamel and who made the
ultimate sacrifice except this and on in their behalf thank you thank you.
Right that finishes our ceremonial matters portion of the agenda and moves us to
report by commissioning committee
a presentation of the annual report from the open space and Agriculture Committee
and do we have someone here from the committee please come forward.
My name is Julie Perry. Thank you but there's. A little bit.
I my name is Julie Perry I'm the current chair open space and Agriculture Committee
we've had
a busy year this year so I'll summarize little bit of what's been going on. First
of all we unfortunately have had three of our members leave us this year so we do
have three vacancies. That we're hoping to fill this year we provided the council
with input on acquisitions and development projects we've also provided input to
the council in the form of various recommendations and plans and these include the
ridge trail that's
a biggie the twenty two acre property closed escrow and the final grant for the
Humphrey property from the Wildlife Conservation Board was approved just this last
week. Another big priority for us this year was the development of
a Western Greenbelt plan. We worked quite a lot on that in the plan consists of
a history of the arcade
a bottom and the city's historical efforts to preserve ag land there and also.
Goals and strategies for future production such as easements and supporting the
local. Market here locally so
a draft of the plan has been sent to city staff it's where it is now for review and
editing and mapping the going to doing some mapping for us along the same lines we
also met with the North Coast regional land trust to discuss how to support
conservation easements within that Western Green Belt area. This year we also made
a recommendation to the city to use soil survey maps and soil classifications for
defining or valuing prime AG soils during Project environmental reviews we also
began review of the city bench naming policy that was done as
a follow up to the council and Natural Resource Committee study session that we had
this year. We also made
a recommendation to the council recently to support the north coast rail of Dorothy
and revoking permits for billboards on their land that's within this the city
limits. Our goals for this coming year follow up on and on
a lot of these things that we've been working on and they include assisting the
city staff with final management plans for all our recently acquired open space
areas including Schmidt Bower and Humphrey and green diamond all those parcels that
are completing the ridge trail from West End Road out through Sandy break.
We'll continue reviewing and supporting potential trails in and around our Arcadia
to further open our open space because of neighborhood trail connectivity. We're
going to further develop the Western Greenbelt plan including investigating the
potential for working with local land trusts and other interested parties. One of
our pro priorities in the coming year is to address code issues in the land use
code in the general plan regarding ag land site coverage we're also looking forward
to providing input on developing public access to the forest by permit and
lastly coming up real soon for us we're going to be completing the draft management
plan on Bayview ranch so these are all projects that we've been working on over the
year and that we're going to continue in the coming year. THANK YOU THANK YOU
Celtic questions this is going to say you've been really busy and then in
recognition of all that hard work on the arcade or rich trail there is going to be
tomorrow night I think it's at seven o'clock is that right Mark there's going to be
a party at their plans have you to celebrate actually making the final sum of money
for the for the last acquisition Yeah yeah yeah it's hard to believe that we only
meet once
a month we can seem to when you have so many things you've accomplished Yeah so
thank you thank you Julie I had one thought I was just looking at the quality of
life indicators and. I was thinking that fortunately
this thing isn't working for me so you know my notes here for me but I. Like food
security so there wouldn't think you know. When preservation was one of our
reproduction I see that but there's
a lot of people here in this region that are looking at food security not food
security but I'm trying to say food accessibility Yes because that's kind of
a quality of life thing you know and it can be an issue for people so it's just
something there's like
a whole group of people that are looking at food you know read the regional food
networks and I just thought that something listed in there about access to quality
food in the western. Country about the quality of life indicators OK that
because I think I think each of the committees is looking at different quality of
life indicators and I would say that that's something that would if this is an
agriculture group I mean I know we're not social services we don't do that but
since we're talking about quality of life and it's an issue in this region and
there are groups of people meeting talking about this stuff I think there's data so
it just struck me as an idea that we should be paying attention to. People in the
city and they do they have access to food right now that's actually something we've
been talking
a lot about particularly with the Western green belt plan in addition to the
quality of life indicators. That that's one of the things that having that
Western green about hopes to protect. The ag land they're
producing quality organic food that's accessible to our local community that's the
part of that because it's like you know there's a lot of situations even There's
a lot of people in Central Valley food food world basically you know agriculture
world you might say that don't have access to good food yeah so I mean this kind of
thing occurs so I just wanted to point that out as
a something to to actually list so that you keep it in mind so as we're doing it we
can keep that in mind along the way because we can be producing cheese out there
shipping it to China and that's great because you know economy but maybe we're not
eating you know there's that aspect so it's just something that you have to kind of
pay attention to
a particular commodity so it's an important point I think and I think it's
consistent with our part of the heel the healthy eating active living network
within the state and that's kind of where that falls and so that point about access
to healthy foods so maybe an opportunity for you primarily the record program has
been the lead on that so there may be opportunities across walk with your committee
in your spare time looking to do increase this year as it is working.
Inter-departmental. Many great cost so definitely bring that point back maybe Thank
you thank you. And I just I wanted to thank you again for all of the work the
committee has put into the ridge trail project it's you know we've been talking
about it for years and it's exciting that it's finally coming into being so I think
the committee successive you know generations of committee members that had
a lot to do with that so thank you to everyone who the stare presently in the
people who have come before us well thank you. All right is there any member of the
public who would like to comment on that committee report All right seeing none
that will move us to be under reports presentation of the annual report from the
historic and design review commission and I see John Barstow's here please come
forward.
I am John Barstow chair of the historic design review commission. I'd just like to
jump directly to the goals and recommendations for this year. The
first recommendation is and goal is to continue the recognition of exemplary
projects through the design awards program. I know that is on our list every year
last year we actually did do it. So. That's another we're
aiming for it again this year. Expand the list of the north coast native plants
suitable for use in landscaping and in rain gardens and bio swales I think there's
a lot of interest locally in. Using native plants in landscaping
and. We feel that would be
a good idea to expand the. Existing list of native plants and
actually call out plants that are suitable for these uses.
Include on checklist low impact design measures to eliminate water runoff from
developed sites. The. The term low
impact design unfortunately is very nebulous. So you don't immediately get the idea
that what it's about is avoiding water runoff from. Developed sites
into the into the sewers. Expand training
opportunities especially for sequel training investigate possible low or no cost
sequel training alternatives. This is on our list every year also and I think one
of the stumbling blocks probably is the cost of. Producing the training.
I think maybe we can get more creative about how we do it and look for possible
online training sources or even. Utilizing the
in-house knowledge in our. Commissions and staff to. Put on our own
seminars. Work on ARC is the sign of you hand out including the
one to one in Cancun replacement. The one to one incoming replacement refers to.
The situation where on
a historic or possibly historic. House or building. When repairs are
needed there's
a certain cutoff point at which. Historical design review commission
review is required. Depending on the extent of of
a replacement and the. Landmarks committee is
is working on that question hopefully will produce some guidelines that will be
presented to you. Review and provide
a recommendation to the City Council prior to the City Council considering the
historic landmarks committee's recommendations regarding the review process for
a fifty year period of significant buildings. And number
seven with the historic landmarks Committee continue the work on the historic
survey of historic resources in the baby and neighborhood conservation area
designated landmark historic and noteworthy properties and key architectural
periods and building types for historic resources and other in other neighborhood
conservation areas. And the goal of these two. Recommendations and.
Is to make sure that the city has
a strong. Program for historic resource preservation but
balancing it with. Clarity and simplicity and.
Ease of. Property owners. Being able to work on
their property and then finally review the land use code signage
standards particularly an arcade as downtown. If you're familiar with the
city's. Sign codes. You probably note that there are observe mostly
in the nonobservance of them. So.
If we take a look at this I think it'll be
a question of deciding whether we need to revise the standards to make them
fit the circumstances or to figure out how to enforce the existing
codes. There are any questions or comments on the go ahead to address them.
Well I thought about mentioning just Alex and I just took
a trip this last weekend and went to
a local government commission meeting and it's actually more exciting than that
sounds it was really fun it was it's really
a lot about cities and design and they were addressing climate change and some of
the energy issues we're all facing but. There's some part of me that that's really
going to try to figure out to either get some kind of people up here or see if what
you know I mean I would I would suggest people just even look at some of their web
site and some of their publications because they've really worked out
a lot of this stuff
a lot about the smart streets you know just things like that. I just want to
mention that because you know the historic in design review is in the back of my
mind when I'm watching these presentations and things and trying to think of how to
bring these type of things and education to you guys and to the Community
Development Department really I mean I kind of feel like I'd be great if we could
all go somehow you know San Jose was able to work that out they had like five or
six people there but. So it's just something that. I just want to mention because
it is in the back of my mind it's
a great website just to check out and also. I'm going to try to figure out how to
get that sort of for training because they have really they really work with some
great consultants and they have some really interesting creative ways of addressing
some of these issues that we're facing with you know that you guys face and
Community Development faces so I mentioned that thank you so one of the energy one
of the energy presentations the first line he had leave windows alone leave
historic windows alone that was his number one thing and so
a lot of people don't understand when you go to retrofit
a house for energy conservation they they always think windows in the city of
arcade as are has in the past and I don't know if you still do but you make it
possible to make get blown replacement of all the windows windows of the last thing
you want to do you and he talked about the on bill up of the building and how you
start with your underneath your foundation with insulation your attics and then all
those other leaks that you have through your plugs in your light fixtures and and
your smoke detectors and how you have to pull all that together and then you look
at how you can rework your windows and keep them because they aren't the first
thing that she would replace for energy efficiency so I thought you know it's I
think that's something we always have to keep in mind because because when we had
as best
a salesman they said you put it's best to sell your house you'll never have to
paint it again and when you had the aluminum salesman they said if you put aluminum
on your house you'll never have to paint it again and you don't have to worry will
take all the trim off too and when now we have window salesman and so they tell us
you replace your windows and you'll never have any problem with being cold again
and it's not true and people spend lots and lots of money to replace their windows
and they're still cold so I and I know I thought for sure that the at one time that
the historic landmarks committee was working. I am one on one in kind replacement
and I assume that the city is in you know I see this here and I'm assuming the city
is interested in proceeding along that line with the having the committee help you
come up with that one on one replacement and. Keep thank you baby baby you
neighborhood we should get out of baby you and go somewhere else there are
a lot of neighborhoods in Arcadia and Babe you I know you live there. We did
a survey two surveys have been there done there one was by Bill holes class which
did a good portion of it and then the last survey we did
a survey only I think every house has been photographed up there on the information
so I thank you for us to continually consider dealing with
a view we're stuck and we need to go somewhere else I think what's happening is
that the historic landmarks committee is in the process of pulling all that
information together. And that's why we mentioned baby you OK as it says to
continue to work on the historic survey the landmarks. Resources for the baby you
neighborhood conservation area and I think you know we have other conservation
areas we really need to move into and start working on those and the baby you has
pretty much been covered and it was done in the survey and the survey as far as I
know it works I've seen it and it can work and I hope that you had an opportunity
to have that presentation to at this committee at your committee I'm not giving you
a bad time John I think. It may sound like that but I thought she's like I believe
that. The order of the committee is now is and Larry could probably fill you in
exactly on this. Is putting the information together in usable form so that
the property owners will be able to access it and use it when they consider what
they're doing to their properties. And also you know I have observed that having
done one. Area of the city one neighborhood conservation area that
it'll make the subsequent ones much quicker and easier because of the commonalities
in the types of. Buildings that appear throughout town so the
next whatever whatever the next step is will be much easier and quicker and I
think it's great that you're looking at ID and I know that's something the wetlands
creaks committee has been talking about for
a long time and so hopefully they'll be some coordination between the two of you I
know you're both in your staff is in different departments of the city you're only
steps away but I'm hoping that on this issue you can all work together the staff
will come together and work on this you know we would welcome. Conferring with any
of the other committees that are relevant to the issues that are in front of us
this is a this is been
a pet project of the chair for the exam while I'm Bob Brown. ID So
thank you member we I just want to kind of add on to that in terms of the Bayview
neighborhood. I'm glad they're going to other neighborhoods too because I think
there's
a lot of great historic resources throughout the city and I think this expanded
survey it could be the basis for maybe some historic walking to or some within the
city that something people always ask about when they come there kid
a so and since we have the historic preservation legislator of the year of
a couple years ago sitting right here. That's another project Alice could work on
her spare time with that committee said but thanks for all the work you guys are
doing I know you got
a tough job so THANK YOU THANK YOU council member Winkler. In China in addition to
. Paper copies of handouts if you thought of putting these on line yes and also
what which handouts are you he mentioned one in the report one of the ones are you
thinking of well for the on the L.
Idea for that what we're talking about.
Oh yeah there's a whole
a whole range of handouts that. Actually cover or just about all of the.
Aspects that
a. Applicant would need to know about in order to submit an application
and. There Larry could probably tell you how many there are but.
They haven't all been updated so this is
this is the direction that the commission is going. About.
Daniels. Yes.
You know. But we currently have I think there's approximately twenty handouts that
we have on the website right now that are dealing with general things like how do
you present
a plot plan and just general things with dealing with design what was submitted to
the commission at your last meeting as as you recall in the historic context that
was prepared there was I think there was thirty eight different housing stylesheets
that were prepared and so the question that was we were bringing up with this story
can design review commission is that at the staff level we want to get those
stylesheets out to the community so that they can start referring to when you have
a house and say it's
a craftsman style house then you know what the character defining features of our
in that house and so that was kind of the discussion that we had with them and
there's I think when you have your joint study session between the historic
landmark Committee and the historical design review commission that we can try to
come to some some conclusions on some of these things because as you recall the
historic landmark committee had recommended that there be
a consultant the do additional work on the historic survey and so this is the
question can we use the historic survey can we not use historic survey can we use
the stylesheets can we not use the and there are so disconnection between what the
historic landmark committee may have said and what the historical design review
committee would like Commission would like to do regarding getting the information
out to the public and used as quickly as possible even though it may not be in
a perfect form. Well you know my feeling is and I have looked at this survey and I
have actually I have it on
a. One of those drives and it is accessible as usable and I think there's some
problems maybe with House staff knows how to use it or how the consultant gave it
to you or whatever it is and so and it by now we should have it up and running on
our. Desktop out there so that you can bring it up and you can see what each one
looks like and. So I just think there's some issues I'd like to work
with you all and see if we can't figure it out because I think it's beyond I think
it's gotten into some realm that it shouldn't be N.
And I believe it's workable and we can make it work. Thank you well
thank you for the report and I'm curious how the relationship is between the
historic landmarks committee and historic can design review commission given that
it's
a relatively new committee are there ways that we could improve collaboration or
communication as
a work and so far well. There's
a mismatch in the. Frequency with which we meet design
review meets twice a month historic landmarks committee is once
a month. And sometimes this causes a speed bump in
a given project when we refer a project to the H.L.C.
For an opinion on the historic aspect depending on when our meeting is versus when
there is is a little sometimes slow things down
a bit for the applicants. The hope would be that with the
stylesheets in the survey group Zoltan and so on that. It would be possible
to resolve some of the questions. Without having to send that particular
project to the H.L.C.
. In terms of our relationship with them. I'd like to see
more. Joint study sessions. With the H.L.C.
. But you know they're doing the real nitty gritty
work on these issues and. Although it would be
asked through the historic and design view commission. You know we'd like to
collaborate
a little bit more with them thank you any other council questions or
comments. Just all right thank you again.
Is there any member of the public who would like to comment on the report we just
heard. All right seeing none that will move us on to early oral communications
this fifteen minute time period is provided for people to address the Council on
matters not on the agenda at the conclusion of all oral communications the council
may respond to statements any request that requires Council action will be set by
the Council for
a future agenda or referred to staff speakers addressing the council at this time
may be limited to two minutes all other oral and written communications will be
heard at this meeting under agenda item eleven is there anyone who is here. Please
come forward. And is there anyone else who is here for or early oral
communications All right well then I'll give you three minutes I don't think on the
thirty minutes thanks the low cancel staff and everybody Kevin who Arcadia just
want to thank you or buddy for participating in the arcade eyeball that we had last
Saturday night at the Arcadia theater lounge the performers certainly the attendees
all the auction donors and everybody who bid on auction items and made it
a successful fundraiser for the arcade
a rich trail we did get five thousand dollars plus and donations and purchases are
still rolling in so ilex like between that and what Marc Andre got from the well of
Conservation Board we were able to successfully get enough money to acquire the
trail or is it may be known in the future the beach to Michael tells us here.
And you know just like with the sunny forest after everybody successfully helped
acquire that I naively at the time thought oh well we're done well we weren't done
we had to start you know working on making that would actually be
a functional forest for the people which are still doing the same with the rich
trail now we have to raise funds to you know groom the trails and make them usable
for folks and so we're still raising funds and along those lines tomorrow night at
the Plaza view ROOM starting at seven o'clock we're having
a victory party and. So there will be more auction items left over from the eyeball
and there will be a silent auction there and food folks and fun suggest
a donation to get in but just come anyway at seven o'clock pause of your room and
we're going to celebrate the our gator rich trail. And everyone's invited. Thank
you very much let's give in
a round of applause. And not only did you help us
fundraise
a whole lot but that band of you are smashing that was awesome that was something
to hear it will be that awesome or next year we never do the same thing twice and
we already have ideas. For next year. Q Thank you so I just wanted to follow up on
what Kevin was saying is that this year you can stand there because then it makes
it OK for me to say this. The arcade
a Rotary which is our new rotary they're going to have
a wine their wine festival that they normally have and this it's I believe it's
this Saturday and Sunday about to show that you're in an OK Saturday and the money
they raise from that is going towards the arcade or rich trail so I just wanted to
put that in as another organization that is helping with the rich trail and thank
you so much for your help and to Arcade
a rotary for their help. Thank you
thank you. Alright last call for early
oral communications. That moves us to our Consent Calendar all matters on the
Consent Calendar are considered to be routine by the city council and are enacted
in one motion there is no separate discussion of any of these items if discussion
is required that item is removed from the Consent Calendar and considered
separately at the end of the reading of the Consent Calendar council members or
members of the public may request that an item be removed for separate discussion
a approve the minutes from the city council one regular meeting February twentieth
two thousand and thirteen and to adjourn to regular meeting in February twenty
first twenty thirteen B.
Except Steve resignation effective April thirtieth two thousand and thirteen
acknowledge his six years of volunteer service and announce
a vacancy on the open space and Agriculture Committee for
a term ending April thirtieth two thousand and sixteen c approved continued support
for the two thousand and thirteen Godwit Days Festival through the donated use of
the arcade a community center arcade
a marsh interpretive center in the city's banner location and require
a refundable five hundred dollars damage cleanup deposit and
a one thousand two hundred ninety dollars fee to cover staff equipment and supply
expenses incurred by the city's hosting of the event D adopt
a resolution number one two three dash three five authorizing the destruction of
certain obsolete police documents he authorized the city manager to enter into
negotiations for easements and or fee Title property on assessors parcel number
zero two zero dash one one five dash zero zero four zero two zero dash one one
eight dash zero zero one zero two zero dash one two one dash zero zero three zero
two one dash one nine one dash zero zero two five zero five dash zero five one dash
zero two four and or portions thereof to complete the construction of the rail with
trail project. After prove the league of California cities proposed
a resolution to amend the league's bylaws Article six Section two relating to
submission of resolutions to the league's General Assembly and Article seven
Section sixteen relating to the League vote threshold for taking positions on
statewide ballot measures in G.
You reject proposals received in response to the city of Arcadia September twenty
sixth two thousand and twelve request for proposal for
a loan servicing and business loan program administration direct staff to issue
a new request for proposal that would incorporate
a range of services based on the current needs of the city and authorized staff to
prepare an amendment to the current agreement extending it for one year with
a sixty day terminations clause is there any member of the public would like to
remove an item or any member of the council first step request remove item G
G OK And any member of the public again Council public All right who make
a motion to approve the Consent Calendar minus item G.
. Right we have a motion and
a second all those in favor say aye aye aye aye any opposed motion carries items.
Council staff is need some more time to work on those who are asking to continue
this to a future council meeting a move that we continue item G.
Second. All right is there any member of the public who would like to comment on
this and for the council discussion we have a motion in
a second all those in favor say aye any opposed motion carries.
Thank you. This brings us to
hold business a public hearing pertaining to the annexation of
a portion of the surely Boulevard Park Avenue neighborhood assessor parcel numbers
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also dash zero zero two dash zero zero three dash zero zero four dash zero one zero
dashes zero one one dash zero one two and dash zero one three adoption of
resolutions number one two three dash two six amending the general plan and one two
three dash three one applying to local agency formation commission to initiate
annexation and introduction of ordinances number one four two nine and one four
three zero amending sections of Title nine of the arcade
a municipal code may we please have
a staff reporter. Yes believe it or not that was the negotiated short version of
the subject line. So staff is recommending that
you open the public hearing and then to adopt resolution one two three dash two sex
and inst in essence what that resolution does is it would approve the map changes
to the city boundary and make the general plan consistency findings and then also
to approve the negative declaration the second resolution which is one two three
dash three one what that does is that authorizes the city staff to actually submit
the annexation application to laugh Co Then we get into the ordinances and the
first ordinance is fourteen twenty nine what that does is that
a stablish is the presiding on the parcels and again the presiding on those would
be residential very low density and then the next ordinance which is fourteen
thirty and what that would do is that would add
a special consideration combining zone to certain parcels which would basically say
even though they are substandard as to the city zoning code in other words there
that less than the twenty thousand square foot minimum parcel size that that would
not be considered
a non-conforming site condition. And so as you recall you had
a hearing on this on February twentieth where you directed us to bring back these
ordinances and resolutions in final forms and there was at that meeting there was
a recommendation from the Planning Commission that the council. Approved these
ordinances and resolution and forward this recommendation on to the city council
and then also I wanted to point out at your last meeting you conducted
a straw vote where you informed the property owners that it was your intention that
we would bring back at
a later time an ordinance which would not require them to connect into the city
Senator source system unless they're either expanding beyond the capacity of their
existing system or their current system has failed and then
lastly I want to point out that what you would be doing is you would be approving
the environmental document and we are doing
a joint environmental document which is the surely Boulevard and avoid road areas
and that the actions tonight with regard to any an exception says only for the
Shirley Boulevard project but by adopting the project you would adopt the
environment document for both of the areas and so with that Stafford
entertain any questions that you may have and we would recommend that you open the
hearing and then to continue it iis I'm sorry we would recommend that you introduce
the ordinances and then to continue the resolutions and we would bring those all
back at your next meeting on April third if that's the action of the council OK
thank you and any initial counsel question that is one to clarify Could you on the
first on the two resolutions the first one he said adopt we are just receiving them
tonight so right and they will adopt them in the future me just want to clarify the
other council questions for the public hearing. All right at this point I will open
the public hearing and receive any testimony please come forward to the microphone
if you would like to speak on the side of. Going what's going twice All right.
I'll turn it back over to counsel and staff.
For this item I mean questions. Like.
Yeah I'll make
a motion that we receive resolutions one two three two six and one two three Desh
three one. Wavery of the text and consent to read by title only an inner deuce
ordinance fourteen thirty and direct staff to place the ordinances fourteen twenty
nine fourteen thirty and resolutions one two three dash two to six zero one two
three Desh three one on the April third city counsel agenda. Second.
All right we have I want to mend I because I don't think I cleared introduced
ordinances both fourteen twenty nine and fourteen thirty so OK during which Mr
Excuse me please read them by title I'm sorry
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dash through zero three zero land use plan map adopted and introduced ordinance
fourteen thirty a man in the air kid in
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zero residential special considerations I apologize but you have to
read all of the associates parcel number thing because that is the full title. All
right. So. You want to hand that off to reading.
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way of reading of the text and consent to read by title only and then continue with
Item five of my previous motion. Six I'm sorry.
SECOND BOY feel like oxen. That second was so easy you yeah all
right you have a motion and
a second any further council discussion All right well I'd just like to say we're
having very few questions and very little discussion here tonight because we've
seen this
a few times before but I want to thank staff for all of you who work on this
because the time you put into it was far more than what we did here and you know
for me the checklist was pretty straightforward reading through the document and
I'm sure it took
a lot of time to prepare but it all appeared to be in order so I just wanted to
acknowledge that and thank you for all of the work you put in. I think we should
thank the citizens our community because they have gone to meetings and they've
talked about this and they've given their employer ten and they had their concerns
and whether or not they were going to happen with this annexation So I really
appreciate everyone in all the meetings you've had to attend because say this thank
you. And I know there are still mixed feelings about this out there and I think we
should acknowledge that but I am glad that we were able to address the concern
about looking into city sewer I think that will make this a lot easier for
a lot of people. Right exactly water also. One case yeah.
All right so there's nothing else we have a motion a very long motion and
a second all those in favor please say I I any opposed stanchions OK the
motion carries Thank you all. That will move us to
old business but it will be consider long term options for processing curbside
collected recyclables we please have
a staff report. I
dissent as I'm. Sure if you know.
That's the next Power Point. Everybody in here stick around for this one also.
Oh I did I see. So the.
Old. No.
You think. That we go will be interesting to see how this one comes up.
All right OK in the evening mayor and council members. Tonight this item just
brings forward the potential for. Secret but I can push.
The potential for kind of a second or a new regional recycle processing R.F.P.
Within sort of the humble Bay region and. I just wanted to review quickly for you
sort of what our current program is curbside collection in Arcadia has been in
place for several years now and we're collecting about twenty one hundred tons
annually currently we're processing is handled through humble Waste Management
Authority. And the solid waste of Willits and the City of Arcadia is receiving
a payment for our recyclables of eight dollars and twenty seven cents
a tonne minus
a ten percent handling fee that age to be made takes that particular contract ends
in September of two thousand and sixteen. I dish and only current sort of
a new piece here in Arcadia is that the buyback center that was once operated by
a C.R.C. Is back open and operated by you over disposal and they are of
a very full service buyback similar to our Kate
a recycling center we heard at our last meeting that they're now opening up with
the pain care program and accepting household hazard disappear household paint so
that's great. They also have special recycling days both through
a river and H W M A here in Arcadia that handles the waste and household hazardous
waste household hazardous waste only through aged me.
We've brought to you the potential for a second R.F.P.
Because we guess never it really end to separated for the arrangement with solid
waste the will is through it should be made to be
a long term processing agreement. And. There were several I guess areas of
concern that were brought out specifically by their kid
a community that we felt if we gave enough time to a second R.P.
Process could be identified early on and could be addressed in our P.
Process one of those being the potential for local jobs to return to that to the
processing of our recyclable materials and to really give folks
a time to bid on an R.F.P.
To know that they had tonnage to find a location or either construct
a recycling were for retrofit an existing recycling Merv really could take up to
two years if it also had to include permitting if the site hadn't been permanently
permitted for the processing of recyclables again. So new on the horizon is that
the overview disposal has also purchased the old similar processing facility to be
honest with you and we thought about bringing this item to you it was because the
AC R.C.
Facility was small small peninsula had gone on the market for sale and we felt like
it was important while it was still intact for people that would potentially bid on
this contract that we we move our process forward so that they might be on that
while it was still in the potential for an operating facility that pressure is sort
of reduced but we are glad to know that you know somebody that would consider using
that facility for processing recyclables has purchased it and my understanding is
that escrow has closed down that there are representatives from Yellow River here
tonight if you have questions. Humble Sanitation has who service is McKinley bill
which really in terms of tonnage is about similar to Arcadia they have just their
franchise agreement with the county and they have what we call flow control so they
have control of the recyclables that they're collecting from the curb they are also
in the process of looking for
a long term solutions but currently that tonnage in addition to all of the tonnage
of
a ship you may communities around humble Bay is also being processed through May into
solid waste of Willits So right now all of that tonnage is combined and so we also
thought that was a good reason for us to consider a second R.P.
At this time. In terms of the process to develop an R.F.P.
What we have talked about just said agency staff level is that we would each meet
with our boards and councils and the City of or Rica met last night and they are
Council unanimously supported their staff working to move a recycling R.P.
Forward last night so they were the first ones to talk to their council about it
and then we are tonight but the city is
a blue lake and the county and then aged every male be talking to their boards as
well. And this slide here just shows are the tons that could be potential
in actually were coming in
a little higher we can add probably Hoda we decided Patrick about eight hundred for
the county for the K.
To area in the county and when we look at the most current numbers that we've
received from solid waste to Willits we're probably very close to about nine
thousand tons
a year. We've always thought that to be fully operational and sustainable
a facility of this area would need about ten thousand tonnes
a year so we're very close to that and with the continuation of Eureka accelerating
their commercial program and we've gotten kind of our final three large multifamily
complexes up in on line within the last couple of months so we anticipate that that
tonnage will definitely hit ten thousand within the next year or two.
So I guess in terms of lessons learned and processing recyclables I guess what we
learned in two thousand and ten that operating
a facility which really came down to just hurricane is tight it wasn't sustainable
or financially viable and there I guess just
a number of economic and potential service advantages that are gained by combining
all of our tonnage and going out for an R.F.P.
Together so I think it's both on the potential services that that R.P.
Could render for communities as well as on total price. So I
thought is that if the boards those councils are boards that are interested in
moving forward with a combined tonnage R.F.P.
That we would conduct at least two regional public outreach meetings we would have
one of those located here in Arcadia and likely one in Eureka and through that is
really just to brainstorm on what are the areas of interest that we would really
like to have incorporated into the R.F.P.
And things that came up in the past obviously were customer rates
a preference for local processing and local jobs what are the materials that are
accepted by the facility you know we for
a period time could not do what strength cardboard we can do egg cartons plastic
bags has obviously been you know some materials of discussion but as we move for
the future there's going to be more materials as well so I think there's some local
discussion that has to occur on what are the base materials that we want to have
accepted by this facility and what are potential future materials. Performance
standards and goals that are community feel are important for
a business to meet and that's processing and receiving you know public funds and
rate payer funds to process potentially. Recyclables in this area there was
discussion about living wage or a floor level of wage not necessarily
a complete living wage analysis but some floor that wanted to be established what
is this potential business is role in public education and outreach. And then what
we talk about is residual percentages allowed in right now we have five percent
residual and it's basically when
a processor receives all of our recyclables they process the recyclables and
sometimes garbage gets mixed in and all that surprising but there are some
materials that they can not recycle right now we have that at five percent in our
current contract with solid waste of bullets but it's just something for us to I
think have
a community discussion about the process or can't always control that it's got to
be
a combination of working with the hall or working with you know in our case the city
of Arcadia and the processor is that really the comes down to public education and
what are people putting in their totes but I think we all share responsibility in
that in this particular who's ever processing our recyclables who would like to
share in that as well and I'm sure there's many others in terms of ideas in areas
of interest that we would like to discuss at least considering for the ire of P.
Process. So the idea is that we would have these public meetings we would receive
public input we would meet as an agency staff and try to develop an R.F.P.
That encompasses the common interests of all of the member agencies that would be
we would allocate tonnage towards this recycling facility. And then we would
develop
a rating system for proposals and then those are peas and that rating system would
come back to each of our councils and boards for review and ultimately
a. We will at some point in that process we would have to if we wanted to go with
a regional facility we are all going to have to commit tonnage to that process so
sort of concurrent with this we would be developing an M O U that would be signed
by each age agency directing flow control for the recycle materials it seems
logical that that's going to flow through aged may but really everything is up for
discussion at this point I mean this is very very early in the process and that's
why we're bringing it to you now we would then release it our P.
We would review in rate them and then we would review the results with each of the
agencies as well and then ultimately somebody is going to award
a contract again that would likely be
a May but they said B M A Board hasn't even talked about this item I don't think in
terms of an agenda item yet so it's
a little premature for us to say that and then the good news I mean really in
starting this process early is that we have some flexibility when those services
need to start the contract with solid waste of will it is up in September of two
thousand and sixteen we do have
a six month out clause of that contract so we could start services you know I would
say as early as January of two thousand and fourteen but no later probably than
July twenty sixth seen. So in terms of decisions tonight all we're really looking
for at this point is are you interested in moving forward with an R.F.P.
Process combining our tonnage with our regional partners. Allowing staff time
to invest in both the public input sessions as well as the development of our P.
And if you are interested in moving forward with this at this time do you want to
identify any of sort of your counsels are P.
Goals that are real priorities that you just one stated up front so that's what
I'll turn it over to Marc to see if there's anything that I missed. You covered it
very well. Or I think. The fact is we do have we do have some time but
twenty six teams not that far far off. I mean there's
a chance perhaps we could extend the agreement and and to clarify the city of
arcade it's really not party to any contract with solid waste of well it's we're
just delivering there but we aren't we haven't contracted with them per se so
through each of the M A We are sending our material there. And that could be
a viable option perhaps at the end of an R.F.P.
Process to if we rejected all offers we could perhaps continue with that as a as
a backstop too but really I think it's. It's going to take some time for all of
them. May member agencies to work and craft an R.F.P.
Although there was one before so we haven't learned
a lot in the process and should be able to do it but it will take some staff time
that's why we're coming to you tonight to make sure you want us to commit that
stuff time for this process and and the critical things that.
Karen mentioned are the criteria for scoring and rating responses to an R.F.P.
Because and wait waiting factors that's not always just cost but cost is
a very important factor in moving forward so I think. Really to me it doesn't
matter who owns what right now or where which unity on to anything when it's time
to consider the next step because we don't have and only just
a couple more years of
a fixed location known that we can take our material so we have to be thinking
ahead several years especially if
a new entity is going to permit and cite and develop
a processing facility. Somewhere else or locally or not it's just
takes time to get those things up and running and so that would be
a prudent thing markets you know are improving too that's another good signal on
the horizon for for the recyclable materials so hopefully we can hit hit that
timing in
a positive way to. And I'll let you know that Patrick Owen is here from humble
Waste Management Authority and I will put him on the spot but if they have any
questions they did want to make sure they had
a percentage of here tonight tantrum for you.
Thank you initial counsel questions or comment. If there's any I just want to
provide an opportunity if there's any or any technical questions for us to sit.
In the contract that says we can have up to five percent residual percentages I
wondered where we came in like we had the five percent or so it was so it's the
last time I checked in actually they've got
a few representatives here in the back as well I think they've come in between
about four a little below and
a little above four throughout the period that we've brought material to them and
it clarify director Andre mentioned in terms of how the contractual flow works
right now when I'm a completed the R.F.P.
The last time with you know input from all of us at that point only the cities of
the Rica and humble County were interested at that point in signing the ammo you to
direct flow control to that contract at that time our council directed continued
flow to a C.R.C.
And at the point that. Operations we basically called and talked to me and solid
waste of Willits and they said you know you need to move quickly and we'll just
start to accept your material until such time that your community your community
can have this conversation again so they have continued to accept our material it
has been
a very smooth transition we were very thankful for that we were not forced to sign
on to them or you with each time you may nor into
a specific contract with solid waste it will it but again that also leaves us
a little bit vulnerable and we do as I know this council has wanted to have
a long term solution that we can have in place. All right and again just
a line I want to express my gratitude to me for that smooth transition I mean I
think that was. Some thoughts but I think that and some things I would like to
suggest that I thought maybe if we had public comment Absolutely I'm going to take
public comment I wanted to give the council an opportunity to ask any technical
question so if there are any other question all right so at this point open this up
for public comment any member of the public that would like to speak please come
forward and also at the time or three minutes. Old button on would you please.
Chuck what they were resource recovery one thing I want to mention one thing on the
paint care program I'm really proud we're going to start that but we haven't got
the container sites yet and so it's not actually in place yet so as soon as they
get there I'll make sure I come out with an announcement and we'll do some
advertising on that just
a couple things I want to bring up you know I have to come and talk to you about
test making our processing center in port tonight we put that facility in hoping to
be able to
a large in large at the silly if needed to handle the county the whole. During
the strategic plan we saw that there kid a facility was going to be
a very geographical spot if we wanted to go to
a regional recycling area. With the price that came down we thought it
was something that we couldn't pass up. We are now working on the facility we are
redoing the motors there is some
a part of the building that has to be fixed we're working on some machinery getting
it back up in place. We're looking forward to putting that
facility back to the use it was made to and that is for recycling for the humble
County we're looking forward to bringing back twelve to fourteen employees. To run
that facility which means about two point five million dollars in base payroll we
think that's important to keep our recyclables and our. Local people employed.
We had like for the Board to consider until they are P S but out and put into place
. We are looking for material to start running the facility we had like to look at
possibly a Mo U.
For you to start bringing their your recyclables so we can start putting the
facility back into use. It's important that it will be contacting all the cities
that do not have
a contract. That we would like to inquire about receiving the number of materials
that we would pay eight dollars ten flat rate and. We'd also be willing to put
a performance pond out there whether it be under an M. O. U. Or under an R.F.P.
. I think our record and our and recycling center here and that we opened up it's
clean always very well mannered they look forward to greeting the people there ia
round the facility is clean and. Hopefully you guys will consider an M.O.
You at this time thank you thank you.
So anyone else who would like to speak on the side I'm.
Council members My name is Jerry Ward's old ways to well it's. I just want to begin
by saying I think I was on record three years ago and we were before this council's
wells the authority county commission that. The five years would be the time period
where we would take care of the materials for the. Agencies but processing
would have to come back to me and I think that time is about to happen and in the
meantime we'll continue to take the material from Arcade as well as the other
communities that did not sign up for the M O U and continue to process those
materials now of course we have
a contract till two thousand and sixteen in this process may take. Less time may
take more time if it does need to be extended beyond two thousand and sixteen we
would entertain extending at that time period for you as well as you know we we pay
. The authority which is money going to the member eight agencies
on
a quarterly basis and that number is gone up and down but never below eight dollars
currently as Karen said we're paying
a twenty seven I think we paid as high as twelve dollars So as the markets go up
the arcade community is going to get
a benefit of that as well so that's something I think is important in the past is
you know you were paying to get your processing done and here it's been
a revenue so we we hope that. You've appreciated dad appreciate the fact we've been
taking your material the last. Several months without without an agreement we're
not here to say. We're no longer in arrested even if you consider an R.F.P.
Process or whether you're considering another another option but we'll take it as
long as you want to give it to us and your your residual. Is overall it's four
percent but I can't say directly who is responsible for the four percent because
we're getting it from Blue the Humboldt State University the city of Utica and the
county areas so you're all doing a good job and continue it so it does have
a bearing on. The haulers keeping the haulers with their their information to
the public or their customers to try to keep it as clean humble Waste Management
Authority does an excellent job of cleaning up before it goes into our trailers so
the systems work you know real well and we continue to take your material thank you
and we will be interested in participating in our of P.
Process when that time comes Thank you.
Mayor City Council My name's Emma Jones I provided this is advisory services to
solid waste with us for years and years I'm a C.P.A.
By training and profession and I had the pleasure of stand before you during the
last hour of people and appreciated your. Absolute dedication to
the city and the citizens of the city and we recognize in that process that we
didn't always agree on what the best outcome would be but it was
a very civil process and the the best part of the public choice process gave out in
that process and although you chose not to sign and mail you we were lucky enough
to be able to provide you services and demonstrate the cellar way so well it has
a service attitude and just like to solve problems. The one thing I'd like to say
is that the process that you're looking at tonight in the consideration of another
hour of the. And as Jerry said makes sense we never thought that we would
necessarily take humble County materials forever and there was zero is the
understanding that they would be another look at what the best solution is at the
time there wasn't
a short term solution and now your staff is saying let's start early the sake
a look at my one caution would be Do not rush the process the delicate dance of
coordinating the needs in the desires of multiple governmental jurisdictions is
absolutely complicated everybody acting in good faith because to some degree there
may be different needs there may be different values and that is the one thing that
will take some time and attention so that you can reach
a good solution as staff pointed out in terms of the economies of scale it would be
better to keep all the materials together in one place and solve the problem for
everybody collectively but to get that to happen the devil is always in the details
and we saw it all in the process the last time and everybody was doing what they
should do they were all expressing their feelings and telling you what their values
were so I would just suggest listen to everybody listen to the other
jurisdictions give value everybody's opinion and try to find some collective
consensus that will work for the ratepayer because in the end other than to
preserve the resources so that they are real used the rate payer is the person who
pays the bill and should be protected and you if I do share responsibility you act
on their behalf and we would like to be part of the solution and we will be here to
provide an option to you at any step in this process and we hope it's successful in
the way that everybody is very very happy with it so thank you very much thank you
.
Good evening Chris Mobley over supposal. Last time you had R.P.
. The city of Arcadia. Pretty much said no we're not going to go and
through. The way things went to everything came down that it ended up going to to
well it's you were going to send it there but we had to and that's what you ended
up having to do you thought desperately for that facility out in Samoa I know the
waste matter with or is akin to buying it the other agencies all were talking about
getting together to buy it and because it is such
a vital. Interest that's why we stepped up and did that we put
it out there to you just like we did with our kid
a recycling center here in town there wasn't something here for you we stepped up
to make sure that we brought jobs back same thing with this place we're gonna bring
it back one way or another and make it work the way it was supposed to the way it
should be tomorrow I have. The man that actually sold all that equipment and he's
going to be here it's Mark ten o'clock we're going to give him
a tour of what we're going to do and I would fight any person any of the members of
the board or staff to come out there and see what kind of condition it's in because
it's not great there's going to be
a lot of money pumped into that place to get it back up and so if you are valuable
please come out and we'll walk you through it and you can see what's going to
happen and how we're going to update it to make it right to where it's going to be
a vital facility for this area thank you. Thank you.
Hello Carol so Dave Mr from Arcadia I didn't really come here for this item but.
I guess I feel
a profound sense of sadness. You know I feel like we should let's have
a moment of silence for the Arcadia community recycling center
Awkward isn't that it was very an awkward process and it was really sad to see what
happened it was. It was sad to see egos get in the way of good decision
making on all sides but now we have to move forward and there are certainly some
good hearted people out here who are helping us to move forward and I think the
best thing that we can do is look at keeping as local as we can possibly keep it
keeping. Well paying jobs here in the county keeping it local and keeping some
sort of local control out of having
a good recycling center that actually deals with all the materials that we have for
it so that the citizens are served in some way the way the ideals of the recycling
center were over all those years and I still think it's
a shame it turned out the way it did. But as I say we have to move forward and I
just hope the council will consider keeping it local keeping good paying jobs right
here locally and. Making sure that we do
a good job with our recycling the way we were leaders in the past we need to get
back into that position of leadership and we need to also work on expanding the
sort of recycling we can do to the food waste and to anything else that we can do
locally in terms of once again paving
a path for future recycling Thank you. Thank you.
Anyone else want to comment on the side of you know right saying no no close public
comma and turn it back to the council. Today I went
to. A briefing as
a as your alternate for what waste management and so anyway it seems most
appropriate to continue talking about recycling and garbage today this evening so
tall chief who runs the recycling center for Humboldt State University was am
unable to come tonight. I just I have his letter to all of us and when I
read that you know it makes me think about what some of the things that we're not
doing and that I really want us to consider He says it's really important to work
jointly towards
a regional system for processing those materials which will keep at least some of
the value of those materials circulating locally but he also mentions in here that
he thinks it's really important for us to look at how to reuse those materials
locally and not have everything shipped out one of the things we discussed is how
we wanted to put together
a committee to talk about zero waste and so it seems likely aren't in that much of
a hurry that we should really pull that committee together and get their advice get
their comments and see if we can meet with them more often than once
a month and accelerate it and see what we can do. You know we know that the price
of energy and the climate change impacts are really important as far as it affects
collection and also the processing and market development and marking to market
development has been put on the back burner for quite some time and there was one
item. In the contracts looking at contracts today for May and on their sheet
that they have
a really cycling market development zone in MINISTER administrate or who is hardly
. Has any hours at all and I think that's
a really shame because I think we really need to look at those things and we're
getting lost in not thinking about how we can develop some of our products that we
have here into some other kind of reusable materials and I would like to see that
well my recommendation would be to figure out how to actually fund this recycling
market development Soni administrator at the H. W.
Me level look at you because you'll be the voting person for that but to make sure
that we think about what we can do to incorporate and reduce waste like really
going towards zero waste and reuse and repair
a new product development in which we know includes composting which were doing
really well with our composting and that we just can't limit our focus on just
collecting and shipping it away and then it's no longer here for us and I and so
that would be what I my interest would be is to make sure in what that we take
a little time that we get this committee together we see what we can get been in
a maybe a two month period or
a three month period. And use their recommendations and their ideas we know that
zero waste Humboldt is in operation they haven't in turn they're doing all kinds of
different things tonight there at an H W may strategic planning meeting and that we
come from that point of view because I think that's the point of view that Dave is
mentioning that we should be arcade or we should be looking at those things and
definitely what kind of. Jobs we can create and what other alternatives there are
but if we don't have someone that's out there figuring it out and working with it
and being able to spend time talking to people and putting that together and using
their knowledge in their research then we are going to get very far so those are my
comments and I agree that we would like to see
a recycling come back from being localized or. At least we're going to deal with
something they create something before we ship it all out and we know we'll be
shipping things out no matter what but that's that would be
a focus I would like to see us really make
a decision and then look at the R P and see what other information we can give all
the other cities and moving forward on that thank you for their
comments below I wondered just with the folks that are involved in the negotiations
is this list of concerns shared with all the agencies. And even the way you filled
them out I felt like it's just it's it's
a good list and I wondered. If there are as openly discussed
amongst everyone or is this
a common list or says like just our cadence list or. The list has been shared with
all agency staff I mean the agreement when we met is an agency staff is was that
Arcadia was going to go first so I would draft
a staff report and everyone could tear everything off of that I mean again it we
just want
a consistent message I think out there more than anything but the list really was
to be a beginning two minutes really was
a list of everything that came up during the last discussion an R.P.
Process and so that's a list that I think we'll use as
a starting point for our public input meetings but I do suspect that more ideas and
you know creative solutions to things will come up I mean one thing that I will say
is that you know the tonnage that we're talking about in terms of long term goals
of zero waste this tonnage is already being recycled You know so we're balancing
you know how much effort do you want to put into you know
a particular set of tonnage that is already into the recycling stream and over says
the creative ideas that will come out of our zero waste group you know in terms of
how do we start to capture new tonnage it's going to the landfill.
I think this is a partial list but it's a good it's a good starting point and it's
a lot of things we learned before. You know as we engage with the other agencies I
think you'll see some other things emerge such as. Some incentives in an R.F.P.
Or
a contract for an increased diversion I think you always want to build that in something
for materials that maybe aren't being recycled now so that we can. Capture them
in some facility somewhere in
a more formal way those things we've heard some of them and they'll be more carpet
roofing and that type stuff so I think creating an incentive in
a contract is always going to be something. Well we'll try to work with other
agencies to have incentive for increasing tonnage in diversion and not just
processing that the status quo or the current current amount because we're we are
at sixty six percent that's pretty good bonafide sixty six percent of them
a high baseline to that we when we started. But we need to go to zero.
First we need to get the seventy five eighty five. Yeah well and I agree with
council member Stillman. The marketing to market development we saw one
presentation when we were in the at the Local Government Commission meeting some
young entrepreneurs who I didn't quite follow it but I think they were working
close to a coffee shops
a lot of coffee waste and up composting that adding some mushroom compost and
another have
a product that they're selling at Home Depot and all these places you know this
little mushroom boxes. So I really want to encourage entrepreneurship Absolutely
and so I suppose that the way I'm feeling about this is I mean I would just said we
should just keep moving forward with these conversations I think it's good whether
we you know want to go into an M.O.
You I don't feel ready really to make that decision I generally lean towards
keeping stuff together and working together as much as possible although I want to
see us be as creative an entrepreneur as possible and to to hit the zero waste goal
would be fabulous so. So that's kind of where I'm thinking now assisting I
appreciate that you're bringing this forward to us early enough that we kind of can
just encourage you to kind of keep the conversations and keep getting deeper as we
understand it and then probably you know. Be able to make the best decision at some
point in time so. I'd go on I support the same comments here I say looking
at this list I think it's
a good start I think that you know some of these items here fall into
a sort of we're going to be more subject to regulatory compliance pieces too and
then there's going to be some inner jurisdictional wrangling going on between all
the players that are going to be involved here and the comments I think we're right
on with that. I think at the end of the day it's going to be the one to the
customer rates and the finding what kind of market opportunities there will be I
mean that's sort of why some some of what we got to where we were in some ways with
the market changing so radically quick so having that in the forefront I think
could be really critical I do think looking at the time frame for the P.C.
It's pretty ambitious given all the entities you've got at the table there so I
mean maybe staff has
a better sense of that but. It just seems like. I know it's not hard and fast and
that's just the projected schedule so but I think spending the time to map it out
and being really strategic about it would be worth the time and effort so I support
moving forward with. Its member Winkler. One area which was
a major point of contention in the last hour if he was pricing what type of pricing
for him to use whether it's going to be fixed price whether it's going to what
extent it's going to be market based on the price is. Acceptance and
and the quality of. Scrap materials and there it was.
I think there were two ways of submitting its last time and by default it seemed
only only one of those was used and so I think it's important to be
a lot clearer about what pricing for
a new formula or for me was that. It would want to use it
or if it had more discussion of that as far as.
Additional material some some things that have been problematic that we have
a. Sort of electronics recycling
days but we don't have any kind of as far as I know recycling for other types of of
appliances that are not electronics. Or something it's
a large It's
a I think that's wrong Michael is that it is wrong. I'm
saying you're not at that microphone so I'm
a bit on what would I get can I say you're welcome yeah so yes they do are recycle
large appliances they don't want their free on in the refrigerator you have to pull
that first and they are recycled about your stove. They have the course they have
the electronic that you're mentioning but they call it white recycling when it's
white goods because those year appliances and they do have that you do about
a small appliances that are not electronics. When you say small What do you hoster
so hairdryers toasters things like that. I would imagine it's rather all recyclable
even if you're saying the recycled I mean is that Bilbo in the curve. Not at the
curbside and that's you know there's two parts that we have this election time that
are you. Know there's
a drop off they cut the cord off if you've ever gone to get rid of your things that
have cords on him like your vacuum cleaner or whatever they cut the cord off that
goes somewhere not too sure where and then you have the rest of it that gets
recycled so it's they have they do that also with your toaster and your hair dryer
and it H. That a Chevy with director Andre. You are in the middle of
a sentence so that they step. Drop off in Eureka but you know River disposal at the
site here in arcade is also accepting like that in small appliances and other
problems things like I would if it's relevant to recycling but things like cultures
and furniture. That is something different that's not it yes I know
that's an issue for us in Arcadia I'm sure it's an issue for other cities to where
people leave their furniture outside their cardboard box this was all the clothes
they don't want to wear anymore or the books that they don't want either those all
end up out on our curbs and as we heard our police chief talk about how he's now
has the volunteers from the police department picking things up and so that our
city can look better they can't pick up the couches you know they're too big for
them but that is you're talking about another kind of recycling that which we just
saw talked about is the big stuff that would come after before school was out
can I just would add that we we're always talking to your franchise hauler
for increased service and convenience for materials at the curb for example.
Goods. Some could be recycled if there was
a in point that would accept them some might go solid waste but you know we are
working to. Be more efficient with overall costs so that there is more
money in the system revenue to to offer this additional services that people want
like bulky goods couches beat up front or white goods at the curb and things like
that but they're the facilities that exist do except quite
a bit by drop off or other arrangements you waste white goods.
As other people if their customers of emphasize that market development is
important to. Market Development although ideally we would want to have that occur
in an arcade I think it also would be important to have it very least in California
at least in the US if interiors are being shipped Asia I would think that that
should be less desirable So I think that that should be
a criteria within the our fee process is to what degree is it local
and right now because I've been totally trained. In H.W.
May which I know they don't have the paint care program and they are interested in
doing the pain care program at aged May And so the only place we actually have that
is that River disposal at this time and it sure men Williams and.
Those There are three places but is far is that market development Mark recycling
market development zone administrator though we have someone that's in our region
and it's
a state service state requirement that we have to have them but it's underfunded
and I think that if we could get it funded again and we had somebody that was
working on it it would help us with diversion and it would look at some of the
products because products have actually come about because of that position in our
region and if you want to see we could have
a presentation on some of those products Iraq I could tell you after this meeting.
You have something else to its member winkling but she said food waste would be
separate this would not be something that would be dealt with by by recycling
company corrected this point we haven't considered foodways part of this process
but again it's very early in the process and will scope everything with the public
but we obviously have
a very strong proposal that is to me as one working on for the potential of food
waste and
a pilot project on the collection side that you all heard about it last meetings I
don't know if. If this is feasible but as part of the earth.
I would like to have
a greenhouse gas impact in terms of where the you know that would come up and where
the material is going in and other aspects of that So what is the what is the. A
greenhouse gas analysis of materials and between the different bidders on the
project did they have that some analysis of that included in their proposal I'm
glad you brought that up remember councilman Winkler I think we're trying to look
at that and all city contracts in our piece and agreements now and this was done
last time I think perhaps we've learned some things and have made it better attempt
to. Know what to write into their piece so that we can get better information so we
can measure or compare you know what the impacts would be from one response to
another where things are being shipped what method are they being shipped by things
like that correct and are they doing this are they doing trucks deadhead or are
they are they doing back calls and how are you going to account apportion that
between so you know hauling the two directions is part of the greenhouse gas
analysis things like that but there is some back calling happening right now as far
as some of the presentation today and so I wish you'd been there you would have
learned oh I just I was saying is that I think they should be included and that
calling here is part of the Earth I mean some of that happening of gas analysis.
Well we haven't really discussed education and. It is so critical and it's what
made a C.R.C.
So successful over the years and they had those multiple levels they were using on
it seems to me that the model we're moving towards now is
a little bit more sort of professional management of this and maybe I mean it could
include some education but but even our die hard recycler councilman Winkler didn't
know what he could recycle there so I mean education has dropped off
a little bit I'd say and I mean really while I think it's absolutely critical I
haven't thought this through well enough to really have great suggestions for this
of course I'm still struggling with this the media here we're working with but.
Yeah. There you go that was it but
we are creating less waste so there's the head going for us here but I I think it's
still really important and so I'd like to make sure that's involved in the
conversations and the people are thinking out how could we target that the best and
optimized you know kind of financially and also you know with the right group
because maybe it's not the people that are dealing with the materials at this point
or maybe it is I'm not making
a decision on that I'm not really sure but it has been
a conversation that the staff level and one of the real reasons another of the real
reasons of pulling tonnage makes so much sense because then we're all advertising
the exact same process the exact same program so Eureka's money whatever they're
putting out benefits arcade arcade as advertising benefits you because it's the
same throughout the region Yeah that does make sense to me and I mean I've used
recycling as an example of an effective education program that worked for the last
twenty years in many other programs that I worked in and so I want to make sure
that that emphasize and it's important. You know I'll keep thinking about like you
know how to maybe optimize some of those things. All right so I have
a. A few comments on this since it's something I've been working on for
a few years here but first I want to go back to the point about pain care and I'm
going to ask our legal counsel here to refresh my memory because my understanding
is that H.B.O.
May Last I knew was reviewing the pain care
application and there was there were some issues with contract language but that it
was probably going to move forward at some point in the future slightly correct
there there's
a number of jurisdictions throughout the state that are concerned about some of the
risk transference provisions in the template that was offered and they are being
negotiated and resolved and you know Patrick go in the audience from H.B.O.
May may or may not have more to add to that but May is interested once the contract
languages. Corrected that's what I thought so it might be
a little bit easier for some of the private sector players but for government
agencies there are some stumbling blocks but my understanding wasn't that H.B.O.
May wasn't interested in paying care if he's not at the board level that wasn't
a discussion we've had maybe not at the board level but the presentation I heard
today that they don't want to get into it because of what Nancy said the issues and
so they don't offer pain care OK that's what I heard I think it may be it's just on
a little bit of
a slower track right now but I'll provide an update at some point if I hear
otherwise on that it's completely off the table but that's not one of her. So
regarding the. Potential. I'm generally
supportive of the concept but I would prefer to put the process
back by
a couple of months not only for the reasons stated by council member we just relating
to getting all of that done with all of these different agencies in that time
period but also I believe it's important to let the H.B.O.
May strategic planning process complete and see what direction the board takes from
that because there has been discussion throughout that process of potentially still
the the idea out there that H.B.O.
May could own. And that could either be managed by staff or
a contract could be put out to one of the you know private players to manage that
and to run it there's no telling whether that's actually in the cards I you know I
think it's less likely than it was before when H.W.
Maine was looking at acquiring the Samoa facility but I think that through this
strategic strategic planning process
a lot of those questions questions will have been answered so I would prefer to
wait on any sort of. Even the initial community outreach and
meetings Intel maybe May or June I think that would that would probably be the
right way to go if H. W.
Me doesn't. Build or acquire. Which
is really my preference or has been over the last couple years so that there is
even more local control not just that we have local processing but that local
government and elected officials are involved in making the decisions and
management which is my preference but if that's not the case then I would support
such an R.F.P. Process. And I think that the list that's here is
a very good one items one in two are going to be I think the most important for our
constituents the customer rates and the local preference. From my view that doesn't
necessarily need to mean that it's. A locally owned business. Certainly we
want to support local businesses but for the purposes of having
a competitive process and seeing what the best options are out there I would you
know I would say business could be on anywhere but that the jobs would be local is
really what I'd be looking for that it would be
a business whether it's in Fortuna or arcade or another state
that is willing to commit to hiring people locally and so that's my understanding
of local preference or what I'd want to see. In regards to materials.
We could go all over the place with that but for me the maybe the. Standard would
be. Anything that is currently being accepted and I appreciate that there are some
more materials that are being accepted now under this new arrangement and so
although it has its downside of not having the local jobs component I would like to
see when we if we're able to bring those jobs back that those materials are still
being accepted. On the single stream versus dual stream discussion I was
thinking maybe that would be more of
a discussion point tonight I'm open on that I know that there are strong partisans
on on both sides of that the single stream technology is getting so much better
that the materials are marketable and so although I still believe that dual stream
puts out a better final product I'm open to single stream if it's
a sophisticated enough single stream process that actually is able to remove the
contaminants and not all single stream is made equally. The
living wage issue is an interesting one because in some ways it clashes with the
customer rates issue but I had put that in there in a discussion
a few years ago when I know others have brought it up as well because I think there
needs to be some kind of balance it doesn't necessarily need to clash. I don't know
if it's
a living wage or just some sort of basic floor but I think that's important to
consider. Because when we are contracting out for the services
what we're saying is these are services that we could provide as
a public agency or as
a group of public agencies but instead we're choosing to go out to this bidding
process because we want to see what's out there and in doing so maybe we're
looking to cut costs or get
a broader range of services provide some service that we don't feel that we can
provide ourselves. But I still think that wages starting wages should be.
Comparable if not exactly the same to what you'd see in the public sector. You know
those those might not be city of Arcadia wages those might be the you know modest
starting wages of H. W. O.
May which are not extremely high but they are higher than minimum wage in so the
reason I have brought that up and I think it should be a criteria but not
a main criteria is that I I would hate to see the low better come in and get the
contract because they were paying everyone minimum wage for everything and so
that's the concern there. Those are those are really the main issues for me
the time frame I think we're going to look in ten to twenty years more so than five
to twenty for this type of thing especially if we want a business to make
a commitment to
a facility. If it's you know there's no telling who would be the low bidder
and be able to provide all of the services that the agencies would be interested in
so if it weren't the smaller facility which is all already constructed but also
need some costly upgrades then there would be this additional cost of constructing
a new facility and for that I think probably ten years is going to be the minimum
that anyone's going to want to get into. So those are my initial thoughts. You know
I'm sure I'll have more as we go through the process but that's where I'm coming
from at this point member still had to go back to that we had when we were
discussing the fact that we wanted to put
a committee together to help us with looking at our waste or is there
a waste are we interested in doing that as
a counselor or not and then if we aren't we could take it off the table if we are
you know we need to proceed. If you're talking about like a ad hoc committee not
a long term ad hoc I would say three months would be it and maybe to me I mean it's
a stress I know it's stressful for staff but I think we might get
a lot of input and be able to craft our F.P.
Maybe better or not or know what else we could do so I don't see it more than three
months and maybe no more than six meetings. It seems like good timing right now
since we have a kind of
a you know you're suggesting we wait to the strategic plan be done which puts out
a few months and we have some good you know some people really been thinking about
this and and I didn't get
a chance to talk to him before this so I mean I can appreciate the idea of bringing
some of their thought process and. I think there to
a couple considerations on that one is bring in effectively bring in public and put
the other one is to what degree would staff find the self-will that they haven't
had
a committee to to look into this I think you could certainly it's not going to hurt
the process I mean we've already initiated conversations with the zero waste
humbled group specific to the potential for
a new R P and we would be getting some of that input aside from
a single public meeting that we might hold here in Arcadia That being said I
wouldn't want that ad hoc group to be limited to just talking about you know the
best potential for this our peak is I really saw that group is talking larger about
you know what's left in our ways characterisation study that isn't going to be
addressed for this R.P.
That we need to pull from the way stream and that we need to find recyclable
markets or use markets for so we could maybe initiate that process earlier but you
know and we could focus on the potential for this R.F.P.
But I would like to see that group in the future have
a few more meetings to talk about things outside are larger than this yes. Well I
agree with that and I did I say I wanted them only to work on they are OK I hope I
didn't if I did I can't remember for you Alex is but what additional Would with
this. Additional benefit would there be beyond what
a independent outside groups such as as here we sampled contributes Well I think
we'd have some of the Zero Waste humble people on there I think it should be really
small I'm not saying you know we should include the world and no more than five
people even three would probably work and I think that they're there they're in the
field and our staff does great work but they are not specifically they're doing
other things I mean you if you ask our deputy director just she do anything else
besides ways she might use cell towers she might to solid ways she might do
recreation you know she has she has a whole slew of things so this would be
a focal point of focusing on on these alternatives or what is available from
a group that actually focuses on that that's their main interest it would be like
you with energy you know or whatever it is how do you develop that first cell phone
you worked on you know and. If you had some cell phone people or people that knew
how to do that you get further along than if you just had someone said oh we need
a cell phone but I don't know how to do it you bring in those experts to try to
help you make that work since Michael worked on one of the first cell phones so I
just that's where I'm coming from I just like to take some of their expertise see
how we can use it what they come up with what are our thoughts what happens just
it's a bonus I think it would in my opinion might be a drain on staff but it's
a bonus I think you might get excited more excited. So the way I'm hearing this
it's so sort of complimentary of the process but one thing also the.
Strategic plan would be complementary to this process and try to somehow try to
integrate both of those efforts so that there. It was
a losing you know good ideas. Come from I really want to belabor it but
I'd like to echo I think there's value there's community expertise that could be
brought into this and I wasn't aware of the timeframe for the strategic plan but
that's seems like it really. And I don't know do we need
a motion on this to move this forward just looking ahead or you've got direct
enough direction from staff you know we might need
a motion just to deal with it is far as getting I had ad hoc committee together
we're going to have to figure out who it is how do we want to do it do I advertise
an interview everyone go out for
a sixty day advertising or do we want to change it around you know how do we.
Legally I don't know what we can do but. Have private sector you just pull it
together and have
a meeting tomorrow. It's all of our city attorney come
in on this but staff I suppose could pull together just
a group of people to help collaborate and meet with us and report back and you know
we can certainly let you know who is interested we can kind of cast it why
understanding that we don't want a large group we can set up
a few meeting dates and we can report back if you would just like. I think that
that makes I think perhaps you think we don't have to interview and go through all
of yeah because. And if there's
a need to formalize something in the long term that can be brought back in
a future time so to so do you need
a motion I think we're OK. It's not on.
It's up to the council whether we want to provide any direction as regards to they
are of P.
Process or if we want to. Hold off on that I personally don't want to rush it.
So I think I heard you say
a couple of months wait till after the plan is finished wait till we have
a few meetings with this ad hoc group and the meanwhile everyone we still have
a way to. Somebody is collecting our things for us. They are piling up at the
corporation I think for clarity. When we send our staff back and they're
communicating with the staff at the other agencies that would be helpful to know
perhaps if this is something we're interested in even if we're not willing to
commit yet just so there isn't
a sense that arcade it would be against it I would go for the out I'll make
a motion that we. Conceptually support participation in a regional R.F.P.
To establish long term solution for processing recyclable materials sent and and
explore the possibility of
a technical advisory committee staff can report back to us at
a future date the second. Right we have a motion in
a second any further discussion on the motion or employment I think they're going
to meet initially. Below or and and then.
OK I think we got a motion All right so we have a motion and
a second all those in favor say aye aye aye and you post OK So
Michael you're going to be here for
a while. Business So at this point unless there's anything else on the site I'm
will be taking
a ten minute break. Welcome
back everyone we are now I see an old business receive an update on the rail with
trail connectivity project and notice of Vail ability intent to adopt
a mitigated negative declaration and we please have
a staff report. Yeah this is going to look like this.
But in essence tonight's presentation is just to. Let the council know and really
the public know that we have released all of the environmental review including
a national study and mitigated leg back for the rail trail connectivity project I
know you're very familiar with the project so I wasn't going to go through in great
detail there is volume this detail on our website associated with now with the
environmental review of this project but in short the project is about four and
a half mile eighty excessive class one trail that stems from Northern Archita
Sunset Avenue and Larsen park down through town through the Marshall wildlife
sanctuary and into the one on one corridor or running on the west side of Highway
one hundred one between the highway and the railroad corridor along humble Bay to
pray cut. The sequel the California Environmental Quality
Act requires us to do an environmental analysis we looked at least three
alternatives is required and
a sequel for this particular project we looked at an alternative completely within
the railroad right of way we liked an alternative completely outside of the
railroad right away and then we looked at several other options that were various
combinations of in right away and out of right away we completed sort of the
standard secret checklist and as well as we had when I saw the standard sequence
checklist has
a number of environmental considerations cultural resources traffic considerations
as well as biological resource considerations and then with this particular project
we also did
a lot of public school being that resulted in other considerations that they wanted
us to take Indeed in consideration I guess in the planning process so those who are
looking at the various route alternatives the number of street crossings that each
route alternative would have the safety of that particular route alternative both
to perceive safety from
a user standpoint and the actual safety impact Jason property owners availability
of right away land acquisition considerations connectivity with other trails and
overall user experience so in addition to the standard sequence checklist we.
Added these and as you probably recall we came up with this really really big ugly
matrix that was
a multiple pages that rated every single potential route alternative in all of
these various categories. So part of that was to determine the most feasible route
. And part of that was to complete our environmental analysis so tonight
really is to just share with the council that we've identified four areas of
potential impact and those are study biological resources cultural resources
and hazards and hazardous materials and in terms of
a statics the real crux of that is lighting along L.
Street potential fencing in specific areas within the railroad corridor or with
a long alliance Avenue and then the removal of any trees or vegetation so our
mitigated
a DAC provides mitigation for any of these hysterics to bring it down to an area of
significance biological resources throughout the four and
a half miles of trail we will impact about one point seven seven acres of land
those are
a mix of both fresh water or plus tree and salt water strew and wetlands and so we
have mitigation that is suggested for those impacts as well cultural resources the
trail does run near areas but not directly over areas of specific concern we did
a full cultural analysis of sort of the trail planning area because certain
sections are close to areas of potential significance we will have tribal monitors
on site if we're doing any excavation or when we're doing excavation in those areas
and then the potential for hazards and hazardous materials old railroad corridors
just have
a history of potential hazards we have mapped any areas that are very close to the
trail and special protocols basically through the mitigated
a deck would be put into place for construction near historic sites of potential
contamination so in
a real nutshell I mean you'll see you know if I brought the books to be about this
much paper but in
a real nutshell those are the potential areas of impact that the mitigate in
a decade dressed. It's going to have to roll over we got it
and so we do want to introduce
a fact that we had released all of the environmental documents with the intent for
your council to adopt them. April second will be the close of public comment for
state agencies through the clearing house. April third we will have
a public hearing on your council agenda just for you for us to take additional
public input in comment into the environmental review process on April twenty
second we are going to close non-agency public comment so any other local comments
that come from public input through this process and then between April twenty
third and May first we'll be asking the council to adopt that Medicaid in the dock
in the environmental process so I just want to stress this is just an update of the
process and no decision point for you tonight. But since we have notice this
environmental document it's posted
a notice on the clearinghouse if anyone's here tonight that wants to speak about it
we would record that as an official comment on the environmental documents so that
if that occurs to me we're prepared there so it's. Just
a lay out the time frame so you're aware that. People are honing in on
this and we hope that we can. Get comments and respond to them to meet their
schedule. Public works. Director
classmate may. Mention the timeframe the funding is.
In place for the Phase one so that's what we're holding in on for the permitting of
the Phase one the northern part but the environmental document as outlined by
Deputy Director dreamer covers the entire project the entire four four mile project
even though it may be. You know year
a few years out before those Phase two three and four are implemented and will be
permanent.
All right any question. Go forward Well thank you this is super exciting and
I really just want to thank staff immensely for all the work that this is taken. A
couple of thoughts came across my mind and I know this isn't the classic way sequel
looks at it sudden enough this can fit into anything but you know there's affecting
aesthetics I think I really believe that this trail is going to end up like with
art you know it's going through the creamery district our region and I know they
discuss it and I'm talking about you know in the next ten twenty years or something
that they'll be wonderful things that occur along there so I actually think the
aesthetics may get enhanced so that's something I just I'm expecting actually
so that's
a thought and and then cultural. I was just thinking about cultural And I suppose
we're talking about the native cultures that were here but I was also thinking
about. You know just the history of some of those the lower areas over there you
know the barrel factories the things like that and so possibly over the course of
time you know we could enhance some of that cultural experience on you know whether
it's just information boards that are nicely done from the natural resources
planning department or you know. Or and even information about the native cultures
I mean I just think that that possibly could be enhanced along this because this is
going to become
a corridor or you know it's going to be highly used once this is there people are
going to be all over this place and so I just think we what we're doing really is
kind of opening up opportunities for ourselves to you know like I said an enhanced
in the artistic aspects of it and also we could celebrate the cultures around it so
I realize it probably doesn't fit into
a typical sequence comments but. I think I think it's
a great comment and anytime you bring people in. You know closer to the coast
improve access you know an opportunity for interpretation education and some things
may follow that you may not think about all upfront and infrastructure part and I
think we'll see that yeah I think so too I'm kind of more taken out like next ten
twenty years what opportunities will open up for ourselves as we open up this
corridor. With current technology and probably with
enhanced technology that you can have. Codes whatever the next generation is after
barcode that you can scan with your smartphone and that could access you in more
information on whatever you're looking at that existed there such as the barrel
factory or other historic sites along the way so that we could have. Sure things
that would describe what's happening but it's simply what I wanted to see in more
depth we could have on the city's website tied into these codes that's been
discussed in city. The kind of technology so. We'll be able to do that
with our telephone service system too once we get that the old one taken away and
we get a new one we'll have
a lot more capacity to do that sort of thing I got. All
right anything else from the council before going to public comment. Any member of
the public who would like to speak on this I do have one question and that is what
is going to be the process for deciding among the alternatives I mean you've been
doing a process but. How do you make
a final decision on what the final design is but we have made
a final selected alignment and I might be happy to go through that with you tonight
I got
a bunch of more slides that would be offset if you want to see I'm. But we did do
that through sort of through that large matrix and through that public process and
then we released that final selected alternative and that selected alternative is
what we've done the very specific final analysis on exactly what Lynne packs we
would have exactly where the fencing would be exactly how many trees would be
removed how many light poles would be needed so that finals like to the Liman is
what we've done final designs and specs on and I'd be happy to get you
a copy of those or you know if the council would like to walk the final alignment
that would certainly be an option if any of you want to come in and even just walk
us through town Porth portion to get you to some more Boulevard I'll give you
a real sense of how it would flow. I'd be better. I would want
to do it the selection was really based on the public comment they received that
went into the matrix and then the public comment that we received coming out of
sort of the you know we had
a few little areas that there were choices that during the largest public meeting
we had and we had about one hundred fifty people that came to that and gave input
on those final sections. Thank you. At this point I open it to the public would
anyone like to comment on the side I'm.
Hello Council Dave Missouri from Arcadia this is just wonderful this is great. You
know really
a lot of praise to Karen and to the whole staff for putting it together. Way back
in two thousand and six you know we had
a working group looking at the trails that group was pretty much dedicated to rail
with trail Mark took over from me on that group and I think that.
Something happened after that which was really unfortunate and I think that Arcadia
continued to move forward with the rail with trail concept and saying look if we
want to build something let's build something that everybody can agree on let's
build something that we can all get behind if it costs a little more money if it's
a little more technical What the heck if everybody's behind it we can get the money
to do it and I've always been in favor of that philosophy and I think that's the
philosophy that needs to be acquired for the rest of the route and I think that
going south from brake cuts the same thing can happen if people look at rail with
trail I was at the last in C.R.A.
Meeting there were people there who were disappointed because the end and C.R.A.
Was not into doing rail banking we already knew that we know that the timber
Heritage Society wants to run the train there we know that people have dreams of
all kinds of trains running on that track and the best approach to getting
a trail out there is to say yes let's build
a trail next to the rail and let's allow both things to happen yes it may cost
twice as much it may cost thirty million instead of fifteen or twenty instead of
five or whatever the numbers are you throw at it but try and get funding when
you've got people fighting. And compare that with getting funding when you've got
everybody saying yeah let's do it let's get the trains out there let's get the
bikes out there let's get the interpretive centers out there to look at the
wetlands so I think this is really positive I think it's showing that with good
attention to detail and good attention to what everybody's needs and desires are we
can move forward with
a project that benefits everybody and leaves all the options open for the future so
I really praise the city of Arcadia I praise the Karen and everybody else on the
staff who have put this together and I think that it should be
a model for building the rest of the trail and that using This is
a model we can actually have
a trail there sometime in the next ten years instead of bickering about it and
that's what I want to see I think that's what everybody here wants to see is
a usable bike and pedestrian trail paralleling the highway paralleling the railroad
so let's do it and thank you so much thank you.
Is there anyone else who would like to comment all right we'll close public comment
kind of back over to the council. Well I'll just throw in
a couple comments I congratulate staff and any member of the public that wants to
look at the website has all the supporting documents and there's tons of stuff
there so. And this is you know this is one one of many good projects that can
happen around the bay this is a whole opportunity for
a network of trails around the bay and I think this is going to be
a step towards closing one of the largest gaps in the California Coastal trail so
this is going to be
a challenging project but it's going to be well worth all the effort that's gone
into it so. I think as we move forward and in looking at those final final details
to the users and all the needs of specific user groups that are going to be the
trail users will come I think many user groups the from the bike commuter to the
you know mother with the stroller and the dog everyone has
a different idea in mind of what that trail and user ship might look like so that's
going to be
a challenge as we move forward and see the people on the trail so congratulations.
I'll just echo that thank you for all of your work it's been really exciting to see
this happen over the last few years being on the city council and. Actually you
know we have two major trail projects that will come to be around the same period
of time so I think you know we've been doing our job and you have to do so thank
you. All right and I know it's so you don't really require emotion from ice and so
if you did I would move forward on this but and I had an opportunity to attend
a staff meeting that was not our own staff but staff dealing with trails from the
county and Eureka and everybody is really working together on moving forward to
have have trail connectivity and there's
a lot happening in Eureka along those areas and that Susan has you know if you
talked about it here but just some of the thoughts that are going on and so I think
we're going to see quite an interesting connect neck did trail system here
I kind of want to just to echo that and to let Dave know that there is quite
a bit more cooperation going people understanding this the city of our kid and
caring and really been
a leader and help you know I don't mean to demean everyone we market
but I don't want to and I see Mark in this. But. You know
it's the tide has turned I think and I think we're all see in the light we want to
keep the multi-modal options going we're not trying to close anyone out and with
that kind of thinking that helped people get behind yeah we want to trail between
your weekend arcade and connect into this and so there's there's some good energy
going on now so I'm hoping to see something that I can actually ride on before I
have to give up right. If I can whatever period of time that is so. There is here
still Yeah I hope to not have to write it on
a three wheeler let's put it that way. Just to reiterate you're looking if any
members of the public still want to comment on the deck they've got till April
second to do so is that right. Any public comments haven't tell it will twenty
second agency state agency comments through the clearing house there comment period
officially ends April second I just want to add you know we are working with
community development in this as well as the sequel process and we all made the
decision to come straight to the city council and not go to the Planning Commission
for this project but the Community Development Department is looking at all aspects
of the environmental review along with our Department of Public Works as
a city city wide. Analysis and partnership went forward.
All right thanks again everyone and moves us to the new business portion of our
agenda. And will be receiving a presentation by Michael furnace and U.S.
Forest Service retired regarding climate change induced sea level rise and
implications for humble Bay and I want to thank you Michael for sticking around we
talked so much that we I think we drove away most of your audience but we're all
pretty stoked to receive this presentation for you yeah there's yeah hopefully
we've got
a big crowd you know it's also. I just preface here you know we stop
wasn't looking for feedback for any you know any decision or
a project or anything it's it was just. An informed discussion.
Michael for an expert in his field is also want to forest management committee. And
. He talks about climate change and not just on the civil rights issue around the
world and around this country but in terms of forest structure hydrology and
changes on a whole array of fronts. Anyway we're fortunate to have
a scientist of his caliber in the city and actually on one of our committees to
help decision makers and staff with with with the science background we need to
make decisions going forward and there are
a lot of other aspects to dealing with adaptation of sea level rise and cities
participating in but tonight wasn't intended to. Tear off any of
those it was just just an information type discussion
so anyway. OK I'm going to do. So yeah Michael gave me
a kind of updated short bio does so is if it's all right with you Mr Mayor may be
this is so Michael furnace recently retired as
a forest hydrologist and soil scientist for the research branch of the U.S.
Forest Service he taught the climate change and land use course in the forestry
department of H.S. You this fall semester he's a member of the F M A A C.
And
a member of the board of directors of the Smith River Alliance during the last two
years Michael led
a national team in conducting pilot climate vulnerability assessments for eleven
national forests across the country and has just published this in the scientific
literature he has recently been engaged internationally teaching and consulting on
climate change in Colombia Peru Ecuador Thailand Vietnam Laos Cambodia and
Israel and here he is in Arcadia to speak to us so I think thank you Michael.
I need to stick with the microphone here yeah because then people you know watching
on T.V.
Can hear you access right. Here Yeah I can go there yeah yeah. I got used
to carrying
a stick when I taught the class it was in the morning and. We helped Yeah they were
sleepy sometimes and but it works better than
a laser pointer actually although I have this as well. So let me start with this.
When I have seen the Hungry Ocean gain advantage on the Kingdom of the shore and
the firm soil when the water remain increasing store with loss and loss with store
. That's just one verse of Shakespeare sixty fourth sonnet in the only verse the
only sonnet where the word soil is mentioned and so I committed that to memory but
it's quite relevant. When I've seen The Hungry Ocean gain advantage in the kingdom
of the shore. And perhaps it's in the theme of my kind of highfalutin title here of
geology is destiny but I love this term and it's really true there's another
expression that. Civilization exists by geologic consent. And you get
a sense for that in looking at climate change it's very important to take
a long term perspective and look at how the Earth actually works in the timeframes
that are relevant to earth processes and you get
a better much better sense than if you just look short term so. And this is what
I'll cover Mark told me twenty minutes so. It's going to be I'm going to be going
through it quite quickly just
a few basics on how sea overworks. Looking at deep time and how sea levels changed
through geologic history also take you to
a few other places in the world and show you why even though we're vulnerable and
got it so bad as some other places on the globe and then
a little bit about what we can do about it. So in the last few million years these
immense continental ice sheets have advanced and retreated dozens of times and each
time they advance they take up
a lot of salt water into the ice and the oceans receipt and sea level goes
down and each time they recede that water goes back into the ocean and sea level
goes up and it goes over elevation range of about five hundred feet and so and this
is happened dozens of times in the last few million years and this is just what the
Earth does and so what's the problem why should we worry about sea. All Rise Well
obviously it's because if we put ourselves in the way. And it becomes quite
inconvenient for humans and our infrastructure and where it turns out we're very
accustomed to having a stable sea level even though that's
a very unusual state of the earth. And there's two kinds of sea level we need to
think about this is this is very important is the global sea level or what's called
you static sea level kind of global global wide sea level and then there's
a local sea level which is the one you really want to know and there's
a lot of complexity to determine what local sea level is actually going to be and
explain that to you about first of all in terms of the static sea level of this
global sea level there's really two primary controls or some other small factors
but these are the these are the biggies and there's only one you really need to
think about and first of all it's the thermal expansion of seawater. And that is
when water heats up it takes up more space just like
a thermometer like the mercury in a three monitor and this is
a very well known process it's easy to predict if you know what the temperature is
going to be you can say this is what the volume of the oceans are going to be and
then the melting of glaciers in continental ice sheets so sea ice melting doesn't
matter but continental ice matters and it matters a lot and is
a big component of both geologic and the invasion and ongoing.
And so again thermal expansion and the ice sheets. Those are
responsible for the global sea level whether it's rising or falling.
If you look at some Tide records here you can see that you know California and
Florida in Maryland or New York will have about the same slope to them. And they're
rising but what's going on with Galveston and Citgo. Well Galveston is
sinking it has
a severe subsidy and sprawl them and the local landscape is sinking and so the
relative sea level is going up much faster than these other places the slope is
much more steep and sic is rising very quickly so up in Alaska
that mile deep ice only came off maybe ten thousand years ago and it's still kind
of rising in
a rebound from that weight coming off of it's called glacial rebound or ice
a static rebound and it's out running sea level rise at this point as most of the
coastal properties in Alaska are they're rising more quickly than sea level is and
in most scenarios they're going to continue to outrun sea level so. And so
this is these are the influences again on. The you static sea level to
global sea level but then the land also in many places and certainly here the
elevation is not static particularly in
a highly Tekken ised area like where in the land elevation changes quite radically
actually both between earthquakes and when earthquakes happen. And
that's
a very big part of what needs to be looked at and what needs to be figured out
before you know what you're really facing. And then there's the episodic stuff that
happens with tides and storm surge and wave height and the rest of it that happens
and adds to. The tendency of the salt water to come ashore. And of course you can
also have flooding coming down the rivers so the water's coming both ways and that
even makes it more. Severe. And of course you know the
geologic setting here we are living right near
a plate boundary and the ocean plate is diving below the continental plate and
there's two kinds of movement of the land surface and that's the intercessors mix
between earthquakes when the upper end of that plate is stuck to the deep plate
moves freely but the upper end is cool and brittle and sticks and while it's
sticking the plates are still moving and so the landscape to forms and some of it
goes down and some of it goes up the net effect is usually
a downward movement and then when the earthquake comes what they call Co seismic
movement that plate steps the the overlying plate jumps seaward and
up. And generally there's an uplift but sometimes
a down downward movement can happen as well and you can see where the tsunami comes
from. And. Most of the time the coast seismic or
what happens during the earthquakes is an uplifting of the land surface but it
doesn't it's not always that way and in the recent Japan Earthquake much of the
coastline settled quite a bit and is that and is now subject to
a lot of flooding and so this is something that can happen we don't know what will
happen in the next big earthquake but you can almost not worry about that too much
it's really
a huge hazard that we face here and maybe we'll all be gone when it happens or
maybe it'll happen in the very next moment but when it does that it's going to be
very dramatic and could strongly affect how sea level plays out around here. But in
the meantime we want to look at the inner seismic vertical uplift and there's
a whole group of people that are just really going at that now and don't use the.
Map but this is their initial gas is set and it's not all the same it's quite
a complex picture as you might imagine around here but the South Bay is dropping
and so this would exacerbate sealevel rise and the North Bay is rising these are
these figures are in millimeters but there's
a whole group working on that and I would expect that in about
a year they'll have this pretty well dial down and what is the inner seismic rate
of movement where what stropping what's rising and you absolutely have to know that
to know how sea levels are going to play out. For obvious reasons. And of course
when you have an increase in sea level it just kind of exacerbates those extreme
events years adding the elevation of sea level rise to. The other kinds of things
that bring that salt water ashore. And so me take you back about twenty thousand
years. The last glacial maximum was twenty to twenty two thousand years ago when
there was the most ice of the last Ice Age happened about then and then it began
melting and for. About thirteen fourteen thousand years it was
sea level was rising very rapidly. Things were changing very very quickly and then
. Unfortunately the top of the slide is cut off but at about seven thousand years
ago you could see it just stopped rising and leveled off. And this is very weird it
almost never happens in earth's history but it happened we've had seven thousand
years of stable sea level and this the ocean is all kind of
a generalized thermometer on the whole climate system of the earth and so that also
means that we've had
a stable little variability climate during that time of course this is
a very time when civilization developed and there's an argument
a strong argument that this actually facilitated the development of civilization
where coastal cities. Adjacent to very rich food resources. Around here
lots of omega three S.
You keep hearing you should be eating
a lot of. And cities that could stay in place for millennia that didn't have to
keep or treating with
a rapidly rising sea level but that's not what the talk is about but it's very
interesting and what's interesting is that we're used to this even though the
normal state of the earth is crazily jumping climate and rapidly changing sea level
. We've gotten very used to basically all of recorded history we've had
a big. A stable sea level but that's not normally how the earth behaves Here's
another plot of it and the other thing is most of the coasts coastal features that
you see now are just that old they developed in that period when sea level was
stable and you got this very broad depositional environment so humble pay is
basically you know five six thousand years old and all the big deltas of the world
are that old and most all of the coastal features that you see are I should
say that young because it's very very logically. And this is what kind of glacial
history looks like you have to go back about one hundred twenty five thousand years
for the last interglacial period or the last warm period like the one we're in now
and sea level was four to eight metres higher than it is currently there's some
debate about how high it was but it was definitely considerably higher than it is
now and you can see there was sort of the. Period where the slope of the change
leveled off some not quite like what we're seeing now but you can see that
basically the state the overall state of the earth is
a rapidly changing sea level. And so ten thousand years ago the coast was way
out from where it is now and we're at a high stand what's called
a high standard of sea level at present where the continental shelf which used to
be exposed in terrestrial is now in dated. And this is some work that
Danny O'Shea did showing where the coast probably was and you can see the blue line
there. This is about eighteen thousand years ago where that coastline was here so
if you started in arcade instead of walking for miles to get to the beach you'd
have to walk about fifteen miles. And then this is how it developed over time and
then about five thousand years ago the ocean was right up against here and then in
the intervening time these depositional features like humble pay and that you River
Delta formed and the over Delta it's also
a whole scene Delta very very young and therefore very vulnerable.
And you have this kind of
a picture. With stable sea level these coastal depositional features that lead to
very rich environments have formed. Well that's over the stable
sea level began ending right about the time of the Industrial Revolution when
humans speak and putting out
a lot of greenhouse gases and it looks like our long period seven thousand year
period of stable sea level has ended. And it is trending upward quite quickly.
And the predictions are quite varied. For several reasons one we don't know
how much carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases we will humans will admit and
also we don't know what the ice will do there's
a lot of uncertainty and as to what will happen with the continental ice. The
Pacific Institute. Study is what this state of California is going with and so we
kind of have we have that one point four meter seal the rise by twenty one hundred
to kind of as kind of a benchmark that's
a gas not everyone would agree with that there are some credible.
Scientists that say two meters is more prudent to work with but this is kids kind
of our benchmark in California now and it's going to be very useful for planning
exercises. And this is the big uncertainty is we
of course in recorded history we have no observations of rapid melting of
continental ice and certainly in the scientific era we have no observations of that
and it's also crazy complicated to model it's very difficult to.
Do models when you don't have observations or you don't have
a history of this stuff happening and there's also
a lot of mechanics that have never been worked out before so people are working on
this very hard but there's
a lot of uncertainty about what the continental ice will do mainly Greenland and
the Antarctic ice sheets so this is the big. Black box. The big uncertainty.
And this is the present rate of increase shown relative to the post-glacial
record. And you can see that it hasn't approached. The post-glacial
seal the rise rates but is expected to so this is expected to steep in the near
future and approach and even exceed the rates that were seen. During that.
Period after the last ice age was ending. And what
causes. Climate scientists and climate savvy people to really lose sleep is the
fact that there can be very rapid changes and this has been seen in recent work.
Reconstructions of global temperature in Greenland and what not and the climate
system is is non-linear which means that the outputs are not directly proportional
to the inputs it's chock full of feedback loops and complex interactions that are
only partially understood and it is very subject to tipping points or
unpredictable places where a small change in puts will result in
a very large response and so it's just not known what might cause large increases
in melt water but that it isn't is expected that that could happen but
a quantitative prediction of that is not possible at this time so these are
meltwater pulses and you can see that rate of sea level rise can go very quickly
for periods of time where you could have
a few decades where things are changing really really fast and we just hope that
that's not going to happen in the near future and so it's not really the union
Dacian that gets you there's
a salt water intrusion and what happens with with super storms. The ground water
can become sailing as seals or does become salient as sea level rises I don't think
we really depend on Near Coastal groundwater here in many places. But those places
where it does its it that's what happens first your ground water becomes salty and
you have to move or find another source of water. This is the Mekong Delta. I've
been doing some work and. This is what. People what it looks like where people
live there and in the last thirty years. Salt water from the South China Sea has
gone from coming in about ten kilometers into the delta to about thirty kilometers
just with the sea level rise that we've had so far and this really really changes
things. And then the super storms and this is what really makes it real
not so much the slow rising oceans but what happens when the extreme events come
along and storm surge is really the big one so
a super storm Sandy back east you're looking at nine to twelve feet of storm surge
. And those kinds of storm surges are not as high here.
Maybe looking at you know four five six feet in
a really really big storm surge event here but also large waves this can
correspond with spring tides when the earth and the moon are lined up or
a pair of jean spring tides which are called king tides when the moon is closest to
the earth in its orbit and then freshwater flooding when these all come together
you get kind of the perfect storm or
a super storm and that's when the sea level rise will be most noticeable is the
extremes will inundate areas that they didn't before. I'm just looking at
a few places in the world these are the Orinoco and the Amazon deltas these are
Holocene deltas and very vulnerable Here's the Yukon in the Mackenzie these
are not
a lot of people there some but they have places to retreat to the probably actually
have better fish habitat here. In Northern Europe some severe vulnerability
in the Netherlands and Denmark and on the east coast of Great Britain. This is
perhaps the most vulnerable part of the world you can see the Mekong Delta there
has the. Greatest potential vulnerability in terms of the number of people affected
and the food security issues with that but also
a lot of Indonesia's highly vulnerable and the lower end of Thailand highly
vulnerable. And of course the kind of the poster child is Bangladesh and
Burma. Very vulnerable areas. And here's Saigon coming up twice in
one night what's now called what human city just looking at what happens in
a thirty year flood and twenty six centimeters a C.L.O.
Rise and some storm surge and most of the city is under water so they're very
serious about that about this in Vietnam there's no denial thing going on there in
Asia that I can see that's kind of an American goodie. But yeah they're
really very worried about this. The Nile Delta. It's also
Holocene Delta and the outer edge of the Nile delta goes under water it just one
meter of sea level rise Alexandria is highly vulnerable. And bringing it
closer to home if you look at the south and the eastern coast of the U.S.
Far more vulnerable than the West Coast they don't have tectonics that's jacking
their landscape up and they're very low lying and then
Hurricane Katrina and Superstorm Sandy is sort of vivid demonstrations of what can
happen when salt water comes ashore and most of the federal science and modeling
effort is going to these areas it's not coming here I think we do have adequate
sort of science staffing but when you when you look for data and model runs and
whatnot you usually find them for Louisiana or Delaware or Florida.
And then what happens here obviously the Delta is one of the most complex water
contacts. Ever known and when you add sea level rise to it it gets even more
complex and lots of inundation. In the bay Delta area and then even closer to
home our larger barrier. SPETZ.
Should be able to survive even the worst case some of the worst case scenarios for
the next century there are some worst case scenarios where they might not but these
will probably survive just fine. This is what the river delta looks like with two
meters of sea level rise and this is just
a bath tub model just looking at the elevations of the landscape and adding that
much to sea level not looking at storm surge or any of those things or changes in
land level so these models have to be carefully qualified and then you can see the
South Bay effect. And again another look at the
overall local effect and we'll zoom in
a little bit more and these are the this is the hazard mapping that the Pacific
Institute has done. And these maps are all available. I think for
planning purposes here and I want to pull these hazards apart and look at storm
surge say independently from freshwater flooding and whatnot but they're all kind
of put together at this point and light blue is the current area is at risk so
there's
a lot of lunar ability now and then. What is that Chartreuse. Those
are the areas that would be. Vulnerable with
a meter and one point four meters of sea level rise. And zooming in on Arcade
a little bit you would want to be planning on this map but this is just to
illustrate. That the deep basically the you know the low lying areas of Arcadia
are quite long oval. And this is the same kind of mapping with
a little bit different color scheme. But again the lighter blue being the areas
that are vulnerable now to one hundred basically one hundred year. Flood scenario
with high storm surge freshwater flooding high tide. And looking at the darker blue
what happens to that hazard with one point four meters of sea level rise and North
arcade This includes flooding from the Mad River you know hundred year scenario as
well. And this is what it looks like in Eureka. Again
margins the low lying areas. Recently the vulnerable ones. This
is some mapping of the artificial shoreline that all around layer dead. On and I
shared agenda at the summit on
a restoration conference and for to know this weekend and I. Exchanged slides
and you know I'm sure you read about all the Ron's walkabout and he's mapped all
this artificial shoreline is dikes and levees and everything else and the red ones
are the one Sattar now that are prone to leaking and failure in large tide
events and then this is what happens with. I think two three feet of sea
level rise excuse me so much more of the artificial shoreline becomes
vulnerable becomes prone to leakage and failure. And then again this is
another one of her own slides but. Just broad listing of.
What's. What's
a vulnerable and what's in the way of sea level rise and that is quite
a lot. And I guess the message here is there's
a fair amount of vulnerability to our area and each of these different types of.
Uses and infrastructure would require different thinking in terms of what their
response might be. In terms of how how how well they would tolerate the extreme
events inundation what their value is what it would cost to respond
and so what do we do about it. And my friend.
You can see this is off the screen but. The wonderful philosophy professor from
Oregon State says we need to think about pre silly ants so resilience is
a wonderful term but it means to jump back it means to go back to what you were
before and really we're out we're out in front of our headlights on this we're
going into states of conditions that we haven't ever seen before and so really need
to be thinking about precisely and soar having resilience to what's coming not
jumping back to what was and it's kind of just an interesting concept. So
it's no mystery what we can do. The things that we can do are about the same
We've been humans have been fighting against coastal energy for as long as there
have been humans on the coast it's
a high energy environment and there's lots and lots of techniques and technology
developed the first thing that you need to do is vulnerability assessments and this
is ongoing this is still the rise has been engaged big time in our area and there's
lots of efforts several efforts going in our area to do these vulnerability
assessments and it's really where you must start if you want resilience you have to
figure out what's wrong rable and what isn't and all the other considerations so
that just one fewer through these other things. We say we have to keep track of
what the local and elevations are doing know what they're doing and keep track of
that. Encourage the biological accretion processes and coastal complexity.
We can take advantage of these inundations to create better fish habitat Actually
there are some actually opportunity here if we will take advantage of it if we can
afford to take advantage of it. And then the standard response is to resist
is to put up sea walls or dikes and levees and growing and revetments
and this will be
a reasonable risk. Hans in some cases in other cases it's not something you can do
everywhere. Most likely. And you can retreat. And this is
something that. Will happen in many places. Various forms of coastal
restoration and defense. Reducing coastal substance erosion and land use
managing flows from reservoirs you can actually push salt water back with releasing
fresh water flows not a big deal here but it is
a big deal and say the bay Delta or in the Mekong. Moving impediments to upward
movement so species as these ecosystems change species are generally good at
migrating and moving except that they run into improvements like dikes and levees
and if you want those to naturally migrate you have to kind of get out of their way
and let them do it. And then relocate in to adapt infrastructure and so on so
it's no mystery what our responses can be we know how to do this stuff so it's not
like we have to develop all new technologies to deal with this this is this is kind
of well trod ground it's just the stakes are raised. And I just wanted to mention
that. Other than being done having vulnerability to sea level rise
although you know we're not Alexandria or the Mekong Delta or even New York or
Miami we have it
a lot easier because we don't have quite so I don't have you know cities in the way
but we do have
a considerable vulnerability but beyond that we are probably you can probably think
of this area as
a climate refuge. And the reason being is that the protected temperature increases
are less and less as you approach the coast and when you get to the coast there the
least and so the predicted temperature increase say and Utah Idaho is two to three
times what it is on the coast here. So that the thermal impact
of climate changes least on the coastal areas we also don't depend on snow for our
water supply there is
a component of snow but it's quite insignificant so our water supply is OK That's
not true and in
a lot of California but it's true here. We get enough rainfall to saturate our
soils even in drought conditions we don't have high elevations where the.
Warming is is greatest. And we'll probably have more fog and kind
of that we don't really know what will happen with fog but the likelihood is that
they'll be more fog not less. Press that went out on that not withstanding that was
probably not correct but we're probably have more fog here. And so we can look at
this area other than the sea level rise effect as
a climate refuge. And we might even have. You know in coming
decades some climate refugees. When Utah is because burning up.
Let's move. So.
I guess for
a few takeaways we have substantial hazards now lots of you are vulnerable
infrastructure and uses and the. Logical thing to do is vulnerability assessments.
And the subtraction earthquake will happen and it will change the situation but we
don't know how. And there are big uncertainties and we can deal with that was
scenario. Those or doing what ifs. And being prepared the more you prepared the
less suffering in the last cost these impacts so. Thank you.
Thank you for the great presentation so question we just had
a whole semester into minutes what you do all the time. What are Ranger
predictions on changes in rainfall here the rainfall predictions are
highly unreliable but all the models show that the middle latitudes have the least
change and it probably means that we'll see
a greater variability in rainfall but probably not
a lot of change in rainfall but rainfall is
a threshold effect and is very much more difficult to predict and temperature. As
you see the weather man making you know the three degree challenge that's because
temperatures easy you'll never see them doing that with the rain. And it's the same
with the climate system rainfall it's very difficult to predict in
a general way wet areas get wet or dry areas get dry or wet seasons get wet or dry
seasons get drier so they kind of the knob goes up on the whole system but. The
range of variability that we have in rainfall now that predicted changes are well
within that range not true of temperature we get into
a whole new world in terms of temperature outside the range of variability.
Any other questions or comment. That's
a great presentation so it will be available to the public they want to really
watch this and share it with other people on our website so I mean for you
mentioned it mark at the beginning where oh we're doing what we can as
a city in terms of participating in this you know in our regional effort around
humble Bay and then also in terms of integrating what we're learning here and
through this effort in the L.C.P.
Update our local coastal program update so I think we're we're having some new
ground in that regard because I think we're in a position to be ahead of
a lot of other coastal cities so we're trying to do that so I mean much of what
Mark's been able to do over the years is implement
a retreat strategy in putting those winds along our coastline and permanent
protective status so I think we're we're doing the best we can A lot of ways and.
Thanks those great presentation
a lot of information that thanks so much for having me and thanks to council and
council member are now US and director I'm ready for giving me the opportunity to
do so yeah just one of my thoughts was I wanted to share this information with
other boards were on I mean I think we have
a plan for you to talk to the red Coast Energy Authority and because I just felt
like this is just important to share I like how you presented it you know pretty
equally I don't think it would create arguments really and I just wanted us to be
able to talk about the subject with the same kind of background and understanding
so that we can you know you know have discussions about energy and things like that
. Without you know. With us all being able to be reasonably informed and whatever
we can get out of that so so I'm just suggesting that if you think that this kind
of presentation might work at
a particular board you're on I think think I'm hoping to get you to H.
Coggan rigid coast in. The authority but there you know and those are maybe two
main ones because it's called being transportation and all the carbon and the
greenhouse gases all that stuff and but that's that's is the thought that I had
just to just to kind of kind of bring all of us up to this so we can all talk about
this on the same. Discussion Well it's
a good idea. All right I'm just one of the missing that microphone as he
gave it
a lecture at the margin target of center and last year and it's and I apologize for
the screen being a little split up here and he's able to use
a stick more robustly on that slide show when it's the full It's
a full hour with more detail so that's on our website on granite this is titled
slow motion flood rapid sea level change on the north coast and also. Mike
founded the climate change resource center for the U.S.
Forest Service and you can google that and find many other lectures about climate
change. Effects on ecosystems and fire regimes. On the federal website
and one of those lectures was given at the march interpretive center by Dr Connie
Melor one of one of your colleagues and. Really high quality very equal.
Rights thank you is there any member of the public who would like to comment on
this all right saying no thanks again thank you and I enjoyed your presentation at
the marsh when you did that all right next time so it's getting
a lot more to you so I'm thinking you know are you retired or not.
Well. So you have time to go around and do presentations
I love. I love to. Everyone I know who supposedly retired when you ask them they
paused for
a moment. Yeah you can't work and. Thanks for everything you do
thank you thank you Mike. All right that brings us to new business be consider
authorizing the mayor to sign
a statement of California mayors united against Proposition eight and the courage
campaigns request for the city to fly the rainbow flag on March twenty sixth and
twenty seven twenty thirteen we please have
a staff report. Thank you yes Rick Jacobs the chair and founder of the Courage
Campaign in the Courage Campaign Institute has contacted mayor Brenton requesting
that the city of our kid to fly the L G B T pride rainbow flag at city hall on
March twenty sixth and twenty seventh staff to do research in the flag pole at City
Hall has attachment for three flags and. A flag
a specifically designated to fly City Hall by Council Resolution eight seven
a dash five one so staff would recommend and I haven't talked with Rick
Jacobs to see if he would concur but staff would recommend that if if Council
wishes to fly the rainbow flag on March twenty sixth and twenty seventh and I might
add that this is when the the Supreme Court hears Hollingsworth the Perry which
challenges the constitutionality of California's Proposition eight and us
a v Windsor which concerns the constitutionality of the Defense of Marriage Act So
if counsel wishes to fly the rainbow flag on March twenty sixth and twenty seven
staff with suggested Council consider flying it on the plaza and we could maybe
take down the earth flag for
a couple of days but it's certainly up to the council. The earth flag is not set by
resolution the way the prisoners of war flag is Clear Act correct and their flag is
not set by resolution All right thank you. I see the
budget item hundred dollars to purchase I think that's an estimate I'm actually
looking and if you all want to do this I'm looking and take borrowing one but I
would need to know the proportions because I know it needs to be
a certain size it is an estimate I just went on the Internet and looked at prices
and that's how I estimated So you know if we think that we would check to see if we
could borrow one if not we could order one and have it shipped here you know by you
know overnight whether by by the time I'm next week right I think we could probably
find one locally. I think I recall seeing one at Baton Rouge or one of these events
we've had so sure it's out there. So helpful. So I'm
supportive or it makes sense to put it on the plaza where the earth flag is for two
days OK. All right great. I might also add that through
a recommendation authorized the mayor to join this statement of California mayors
united against Proposition eight I believe last year or Winkler signed that So
they're asking for mayors this year as well to cite that.
Right here. Statement of yours yes this is.
Do you want to include anything about the fighting the flag also just like I. Mean
. It's. Arts.
Second right we have a motion and
a second is there any member of the public who would like to comment. And doesn't
look like it any other discussion all those in favor say aye. And he opposed motion
carries Thank you. I just point out that there is
a L G B T caucus within the league California cities and when they established that
they had to get regional representation so Michael Markey and I were the folks from
the Redwood. Had to support that so and that's still stands
so cool Well thanks for doing that all right so that moves us to see under
new business consider accepting public safety realignment grant funds in the amount
of one hundred twenty two thousand five hundred seventy four dollars and approve
the city of Arcadia as the fiduciary agent for the grant funds and we please have
a staff report hearing Council thank you for having me here this evening.
My intent was to update the Council on. Realignment and some of the
impacts that we've seen in our community and then regionally.
Before I do that there's really there's two actions or one action that I'm asking
the council to take and I. It's part of the budget process the governor.
Allocated what's called realignment and grant funds initial allocation from the one
zero nine went to. What are called C C T's community
correction partnerships and you'll see in the staff report there's lots of acronyms
and just stop me if I if I jump on acronyms and you're not understanding what I'm
saying but the C.C.P.
Was established
a community correction partnership was established locally in there are some
mandates on who's represented and this was essentially to get the realignment
process going at the county level. Just for the
sake of so we're all in the same page realignment essentially
changed the function of. Primarily the
corrections side of public safety or of the criminal justice system where
what they ultimately did through through this is simply
a bill was take offenders that are typically felons that would typically go to the
state penitentiary to
a state prison and they realigned that to county jails so. The
C.C.P. S.
Were created to deal with that impact. When I'm referring to
that realignment of offenders there's
a term that we we call it the non. Non serious. Non violent
and non sex offenders while offenses may be felonies which is
a state prison term those are now being handled at the county the county jail level
so as you can imagine it is impacted the county jail population and it's
some dominoes are starting to fall as
a result of this so the original funding was set up. To fund the counties to do
that in
a staff report you'll see that. Received one point five million are
me one point seven million dollars in realignment funds but that was really for the
C.C.P.
So it's been handled all of that money was done at the. County level to
put together there the probation department to to equip the probation department to
do offender tracking and monitoring much like probation and parole. District
Attorney public defender costs and then. There are some other things mental health
substance abuse counseling and some other services that have been brought in what
didn't happen was there's really no money allocated to local law enforcement you
know address this issue on the corrections side of it and on the justice system
side of it but they didn't address it in our communities that would really see more
offenders. With less supervision so
that's essentially what this grant funding it is supposed to do the California
Police Chiefs Association. Which represents all of the municipal chiefs in this in
this state lobbied pretty hard to the governor to try to address this
issue of funding needs to happen on the law enforcement side as well. Not just
in the county system and I don't mean to say it's an us and them type of thing
because I really believe. We're all in it together. But frontline law
enforcement essentially was left out so out of this current budget.
I think twenty four million was allocated to local law enforcement of that
they have some complicated formula that they use the term in who gets what
and humble received one hundred twenty roughly one hundred twenty two thousand
dollars and that one hundred twenty two thousand dollars is what we're talking
about tonight is dedicated to local law enforcement municipal law enforcement
for the police chiefs at the local level to determine how best to use the money so
there's really not. Not much by the way of restrictions on how this money is
used it's intended to be used by Fortuna Rio del Ferndale Eureka or
keda which are the municipal police departments. The sheriff has to contract police
departments with Trinidad and blue lake so the sheriff set the table somewhat but
population you know wise it's not
a significant number. As my part of my work on the couch keeps
a board of directors you know I've certainly been tracking this issue and have been
in communication with a lot of people on what are they doing and there's
a lot of variations across the state. Ranging from in Forstmann
activities to. Data sharing there's just
a wide range. Brighty what we did is met locally
a couple weeks ago the local chiefs met with the sheriff and with the probation
chief Bill Damiano And so we had a had
a meeting and talked. It is their request that this is through
what's called leak the law enforcement chiefs association of humble that one city
has to be designated the fiduciary agent. Probably change that to financially jinx
it's easier to say but that their request is that are key to manage the funds.
I checked in with the finance director with the city manager there's really no
significant impact for us to manage the funds I think their preference was.
Because I'm on the board of directors with Cal chiefs little bit closer to the
issue. That it's probably most appropriate for for us or for me to do that so you
know I'm fine with that I need Council approval to do that and then to as the
financial agent we get the funds and then distribute them as the local police
chiefs decide the funds have been received but of course before we
fully fully accept them we need Council approval to do that our conversation
locally was. We looked at several different.
There were several different ideas that were brought to the table. One of which was
the concept of. Doing more in Foresman type activities where
you would essentially like
a DUI grant or something like that you know where you'd spend some money on
overtime to doing Foresman activities. I had serious reservations about
that because I feel like. And then what you know due to the kind of the domino
effect the gel capacity is high. So local we locally we have what's called
a matrix a booking matrix where if
a certain offense is committed. They will compare that offense to the matrix to the
population and people are not being held. Through
no fault of anybody it's just the way the system set up right now so nonviolent
offenses property crimes are not being held in custody.
So my concern with doing that type of inforce ment is we go in arrest people but
would then what happens I mean it just seems like they're there bouncing off the
front door. Remaining in the community still offending So there's got to be
a better way for us to do this. Ultimately really what we came down to is there's
a serious lack of scuse me of data sharing in law enforcement
for the sake of this discussion this isn't one hundred percent accurate but it kind
of gives you the idea we're all essentially on our own records management systems.
So what happens in our kid the sheriff doesn't really have access to that
information they can certainly call and we'll talk to them but they don't have any
real. Instant access as we don't for the sheriff's department and then
for probation or what's happening in Fortuna. You know we're just not getting
there's not access to that same information easy easy access so there there are as
technology has evolved there's products out there that. Can Look at these databases
that police databases combine them into one central location
and you know basically connect everybody so you have instant access to information
in the field in the departments. For example if the
sheriff's office had you know significant theft activity happening out on Weston
Road just outside of the city we wouldn't really know about it.
You know we talk but we're doing our business we're taking care of our thing
they're taking care of their thing there's certainly some communication but not
nearly enough so we don't know that right away that they're out on
a prowler call just outside of the city limits. Data sharing
resolves that issue and it can connect dots that we weren't able to connect before
so the consensus of the local chiefs was to move in that direction we're going to
start exploring it. Assuming the Council supports the idea of the money
coming in and us managing the money but that that's the direction that we're
heading with data sharing but the really the bigger goal is
to be able to analyze that data and to look at it regionally instead of
within our own jurisdictions. Eventually having the capability to analyze regional
data and look at crime trends regionally look at trying to solve crimes from that
perspective instead of our own little jurisdictions as
it. I think so too. So just really
really helpful I think it would be I started to pick this up.
A couple of years ago I started looking into. Data sharing and it's just
a big task and. It's almost as big as parking management I mean it's just
a big project so the sum of these funds can be used for
a consultant to do some of the heavy lifting for us and that's really what
a minute try to do is have somebody else that can really dedicate time to making it
happen and making it right. You know totally appropriate use of the funds let me
back up just
a little bit of that one point seven million dollars at the county received there's
a big hunk of dough that one time funding that they weren't able to spend
so there's some more money that could support the project.
This money that we're talking about is guaranteed for three years beyond that who
knows but you know what roughly three three hundred seventy thousand or so for the
next couple of years is what we're looking at in Arcadia. I mean you've
all probably been seeing the news in the press releases that been
coming out. It's not just arcade. In this
area. Especially we've seen significant increases in property crimes.
It's almost embarrassed to report this to you but I will do it anyways.
So from the implementation of
a B one zero nine our property crime has gone up twenty three percent so nearly
nearly
a quarter increase. Burglaries from residential or
commercial burglaries we call them structures. Burglaries from inside
a building are up one hundred in one thousand percent vehicle burglaries are up
twenty percent auto theft is up sixty one percent. There
just shocking. Shocking numbers can I attribute it to realignment and
I know it's so it's difficult to say. There when it comes to
these types of crimes defenses they are not punishable with
a prison term in the order they're punished what the local level but then I'm gone
I've got to go all the way back to that domino effect of the jail population
filling having to have
a matrix and you know the priority obviously is to retain violent offenders and
that's you know essentially that's where we're at or getting very close to being is
only housing violent offenders it's a it's
a difficult situation. There's. More plans in place that
we're trying to implement as far as. Monitoring. Offenders who have been
released with. You know house arrest in the ankle bracelets and things like that.
But those things take time and we're still pretty new into this so as these cases
wind through the court system and you know people who are sentenced. To what they
call a split sentence now which is new for realignment where you know
a portion of your sentence is in jail and apportions and supervised release.
You know as these start to filter back out into the community will be better
hopefully at doing monitoring supervision and things like that but there are some
significant increases for us. By like crime is down seven percent
which is great it's just
a cloud to be able to report that but these other offenses are are really high
in a small community like Arcadia. Just
a couple of people can really skew these numbers for us so you know I said auto
theft was sixty one percent well we had. One one person in
particular that is responsible for a lot of
a lot of these auto theft in the last year and you know we were able to eventually
catch him. Did no prison time in is out in the community now
on probation I believe but if you do others you know somebody steals thirty cars
in
a very short period of time I don't know what the solution is so that's that's where
we're at. With kind of the crime as it relates to.
The police department staffing and kind of how we are responding to it as
a reported in goal setting I had three vacancies plus two officers
on medical leave I now have four vacancies with one officer on medical leave. But
I'm hiring three and we're still recruiting to fill one spot so in the next
couple of weeks those positions will over the next four weeks three positions will
be filled with officers in that in the training program absolutely excited about
that. And then you know eventually we'll get the officer back from maternity leave
and that'll be will be really close to full staffing. You have probably seen we
have beefed up really tried hard to beat our neighborhood watch programs trying to
get you know community members involved as much as we can. But
that really. Is I said in goal setting officers raising their hand and being
willing to participate in that it's not I don't have
a position funded for Crime Prevention. Which you
know is
a tough one that's probably been at least ten years if not longer since we've had
a funded crime prevention officer. But we you know we're just doing the best we can
with that it's been very successful and it's continuing to grow.
Can I take questions I know it's
a lot of information and out of out of the utmost respect for your time I went
quick. Thanks but I smear WHEATLEY I was going to say unfortunately I think that
experience you just described is shared amongst many communities absolutely
statewide and in our region so. You've been dealt some bad cards
unfortunately and we're struggling to kind of readjust and deal with the real I
would go so far as to say we are experiencing the fall out of realignment and
you're very diplomatic thank you but. So without hesitation you
know I would I would urge that we accept the public safety realignment grant funds
from the board of state and community corrections in the amount of one hundred
twenty two thousand five hundred seventy four and I did just that and approved the
city of Arcadia to act as the grant administrator for the funds. In urging
this thing if it's also in motion with a motion second. Motion and
a second other discussion. For one I understand probably frustrating because
this is the work you're in so that's why I feel
a bit embarrassment about you know. But I don't think any one of us or anyone else
in the audience even you know blames you for this I think we kind of heard about
this coming down the line and then we're seeing it in our community and I've been
working with the neighborhood watch group and we're going to have an informational
meeting on March twenty eighth for the sunny Bray we're good it's just an
informational to it's going to be probably to a too big of
a group to actually form a neighborhood watch out of that group you have to have
a little bit smaller where people can kind of keep an eye on each other and stuff.
You know this is kind of reminding me
a little bit of the workshop so just came from going to work so it can help my
brand but where in San Jose when they lost redevelopment they found they had to do
their commute. Right now and I mean they kind of jokingly called Let's spend other
people's money but you know so what we may be what you know we're going to need to
be doing even more sort of using other people's eyes and and ears and attentiveness
to paying attention to things I'm thankful for the Neighborhood Watch program
Ginger Campbell is just wonderful I mean so far in our planning this anyway she's
just been really helpful. I wonder if there's any discussion on the county level is
there is there any thought for expanding the jail. That has
happened to small degree I don't have the jail capacity
statistics with me I get them sent to me every morning with the current population
and kind of what's happening with them they did expand I want to say twenty
beds I might have that wrong roughly twenty beds or so they expanded their their
capacity. The interesting capacity issue is the female
population is always over capacity so it's kind of an interesting number it's the
lower number obviously but. That one is always at
overcapacity in. The other one that's always at or over capacity is the.
Segregation there's there's another word for it. Isolation
isolation it's not called that but you know people who can only be have to be
housed by themselves you know one person one cell that number is always typically
very high so there has been discussions. Another
I don't want to take us too far off track but another dynamic of this or fall
out of this is the fire camps so those are run by.
It's a combination of Cal Fire and the Department of Corrections C.D.C.
Our California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. So we have local fire
camps primarily in southern humble Iraq all their point might be missing
one. Those inmates are low level offenders those are the inmates who are
released into the P.R.C.'s the. I'm going to look for them
to be post release community supervision the low level offenders those are the ones
that they were basically kicked out of the fire camps kicked out of the prisons so
now as you approach fire season the camps are under staffed
so what they're doing is they're having to kick down. Higher level offenders into
the fire camps to staff the fire camps which are now obviously not equipped for
that their minimum security facilities with a little bit of
a higher level offender so conversation has happened locally and on the state
level of should we be looking at lower level County offenders to staff the fire
camps and the response was absolutely we would be happy to take them being
C.C.R.
In Calif fire but you pay us so we're taking their inmates through
realignment and then we're having to pay them when they want us to pay them so they
can use. Fire crews for State fires.
It's. Got in explaining right it's just labor. Yeah yeah yeah we get it whereas
incredulous as you are yeah so that that didn't that didn't work out. Obviously
But there's there's more discussion there's more discussion is happening about the
home home detention home arrest type of situations expanding sweep the
swap program yeah I was wondering if so there's some creative things happening
through the C.C.P.
Which is the local the local group and if I could just plug in one thing.
After council member we spoke I made
a quick note. It is I don't want to say it's broken it is
a big issue what we're fortunate locally is we all get along really well and can
work together so the probation chief the sheriff the police chiefs that you know
that we can all work together and so we're able to sit at the table and come up
with
a what I think is probably the best plan for our region other counties are in complete
dysfunction and they just they see there see C.P.S.
Can't even get off the ground so when you I won't name counties but there's other
counties that they're not even close to being as far along as we are as far as day
reporting center the mental health the substance abuse counseling home detention
and things like that we're quite
a ways ahead so I'm proud that we're getting there. Which is even more
important than we were in early on the funding because if we can demonstrate
success I think you know that puts us in
a good light for future efforts in this line so it absolutely does. I think that
you know they're in there tracking it and this is being tracked very closely what
counties are doing so we're trying to be very prudent you say what is the capacity
of the county jail but. Really approximately three hundred in one thing the
five inmates approximately. R.T.
Deleted that email. It's somewhere right around there how much of that is female
which is Bill I don't know if
you know me to give you an I guess OK I mean I have a I have
a sense of it proportionally bit I couldn't give you the exact number when I say
probably sixty bad still ninety beds that ninety might be pretty high maybe sixty
beds are dedicated to female.
Is there any effort among counties to keep track of the effects of this.
Realignment and fiscally. You know just whatever how one how many
people are arrested what's the choice you know and and report this back is there is
there everyone's trying but nobody has been saying nobody few people
have the. Data capturing ability to do this and that's where we're
really weak and that's part of what we're looking at trying to change is the data
sharing from the state to the counties from probation to the cities it's it's
horrible and it's nobody's fault it's just how it is and that it's tough to
say what the example that our probation chief used is part of the money
that they dedicated it was for. Pre spree sent
pre-sentencing monitoring it
a serious offender you can hold them in jail you monitor him so you can limit their
ability to reoffend someone. That's
a similar you know they've been arrested they've been arraigned in and they've been
ordered to be monitored. So we have this program in place locally to do that.
Because of the jail capacity in the Matrix people who should be monitored
they're getting cited and released or booked and released so they're not getting
far enough in the process to be monitored. And it's just. The probation chief
has no idea how many people he had no clue how many people it is happening to
because our kiddo we have ours that we're booking the release you recognize there's
you know we all have we're booking people who are being held but there's no real
accountability of those numbers and so that's that's the issue that's what we're
trying to fix is. For us to be in
a situation where he can quickly type into the computer and see everybody that had
been arrested by Arcade. Sheriff. You know just a couple of keystrokes within
a period of time with
a disposition you know where they said unreleased Hello. So that's that's where
we're going with ours. Yeah I think the data and sharing with each other is that
right good idea I appreciate your thought process I'm glad you guys are able to
communicate well I think you know it will make you more functional I'm sure it
already is. So. I think it's
a great idea the data sharing and just the example of you know some type of crime
right outside of city limits and you know having
a record of that it's it was very compelling I do have one concern though. And you
and I have talked in the past about. Our policy in regards to immigration status
and really not being
a thing that we get into we're focused on on crime and you know that something be
county. Does and communicates with ice but we really don't get into that if if
we can avoid it so I'm just curious where I have
a concern about data sharing and about the role of the county. Because I
immigration enforcement and the role of the cities in participating in that and I
would hope that. Information about immigration status
doesn't wind up in
a system being shared throughout the city. On the front and
it wouldn't be so suppose we arrest somebody
for
a fresh offense DUI or whatever they pick the events. We booked
that person in the county jail in through their system which we do not participate
in. There's
a hold in immigration hold I would assume that that is flagged so that's
coming off of the federal system I'm assuming that when they run that and they see
that there's an immigration issue they would somehow flag it in their system you
know associating it with this name and number whatever it is presumably if
we access the system that we're looking at it's called Cop link very clever name so
. Sue me you know if we access cop link and put in this person's name I'm
assuming that that information with and pop up however it is cussed I know in my
research of the system it is customizable you can limit the fields each agency can
protect data that they think is should not be shared so
I would say that we could probably safely address that issue. Thanks be something
I'd be curious in hearing more about in the future but overall it's
a good idea you know the thing that comes to minus what if someone. Was later found
to be innocent of what they were picked up for but then that they were still
flagged in the system as. Being here and illegally or an undocumented
way and so somehow they are still in the community or they wind up back in the
community they never actually committed any other crime other than violating
federal immigration law and they're still in the system so that that's really the
concern they would be you know. So I know this to be in the county system I'm just
not sure that I want. To have access to that right and I would
counter with you know we have a very specific policy that immigration is not
a basis for detention or investigation alone has to be associated with
a fresh offense or
a related offense human trafficking drug trafficking things like that. You can have
the best policies but if you don't train your people and you don't monitor your
people you know obviously there's room you know things happen. We put them in
place you know we do the best right that you know I do I just quickly pulled up
that information council member Winkler maximum capacity is three ninety one at the
jail. Female capacity is fifty five
so it's pretty close that. They call it housed
alone males which is I guess isolation or single cell max capacity is twenty six
percent net twenty nine now maximum security.
Capacity. Is. Thirty two and they're at thirty eight right now
protective custody that's the word I was looking for there are some people who have
to be protective custody. In their eight people over capacity on that
thank you so one when you're saying that when you're saying there's eight people
over capacity I'm trying to picture that I'm like So what are they doing sit in
a hall or like what's happening there. Fortunately I am not
a correctional officer or sheriff. I don't fully understand no they don't put them
in
a hall typically what they would they would do is put more people in the general population
double up bunks and create more space essentially is what they do.
All right so we have a motion in
a second to have any public comment. No public comment Any final comments before we
vote could could I just come in that approximately fifteen minutes of Chief Chapman
. Discussion did not go out over the year we've had some problems with access some
but we're now back on the air if people would like to see his presentation they can
go on our website and pull up the. The item tomorrow and it will be back on
perhaps tonight I'm not sure what we'll get on there tonight but we will be able to
put it on our Internet tomorrow so we apologize to our home audience for that so we
did capture it we will because there were after we did in A and we are back up on
the air now there are some technical difficulties with Access on both so I know
it's still too nice for you guys missed a good show it was juggling it was on
a unicycle It was amazing really. All those in
favor. And he opposed all right. Thanks to you
thank you. I hope we can. Serve to be good
partners assist the situation. Hey I heard they're not making Crown Vics anymore.
True they're not what are we going to be seeing out there we tried to hoard
a couple. We. We hoarded
a couple you can blame the city manager cut the budget it's my fault I didn't hoard
more. All right I. Guess we'll be seeing chargers or something that's
going to be
a lecture electric I want to feel like they have in Europe but the officers don't
want. Ford That's another product. OK All right we'll look forward to
thanks. So that brings us to oral and written communications is there anyone else
here to comment on an item not on the agenda All right well move on to council on
staff reports and staff reports this evening. Just so happened it was
mentioned earlier the ridge trail in the Rotary functions Saturday night. After the
meeting if anybody is interested. Thank you you know I was going to suggest that
somebody should make sure that they're at the celebration tomorrow night. At seven
o'clock P.M.
. This sell tickets for that of that I will be there.
All right council you want to start kilts member we will be very brief.
In the. OK To the chamber mixer was
a good turnout. Had
a good time last week we could go on the Special Olympics trip down the center as
of our three teams two got gold one got
a silver from humble County they did very well and then I want to thank their kill
a quantised club they're helping. I went to their event for St Patrick's Day and
they received a check from them in support of
a project I've been working with Glen Paul school and it's called Ready willing and
able and it's to help with the special needs bikes that they have and so we'll be
working with green wills and various other bike groups in the community to help us
do some repair work so work with the staff over
a glimpse Paul and so we'll be hearing more about that so thank you
I have some questions I'm wondering when the plastic bag be on our agenda when the
smoking ordinance will be honored. As
a question so you don't have to answer I'm just these are things I would like to
know the the smoking ordinance is in the queue. It is at the City
Attorney's Office and like we have one city attorney and she's got
a very full plate. I would say within the next tentatively now it's
a good job for the next. I think I think we said April or May probably or may the
plastic bag issue we are we're kind of waiting for me I believe
actually Karen demerit for me that she's working on it and they'll be bringing it
up within the next few meetings because they have the draft document from H.B.O.
May stuff to us they haven't in hand actually H.B.O.
May has been waiting for our staff to comment on the draft document but Karen said
they're just going to bring it to us and get some some direction so I think about
coming to you here soon and I just think about those things and just curious.
Susan. Council member analysis I could say and council member Atkins from the
city of Eureka we all went to the Local Government Commission in the last week and
it was really quite excellent because cold to know. You know it wasn't.
Sixty S.
Sixty's high sixty's it was they had to have
a lot of us know beforehand not not when we were there so we had it we had
a very interesting time and I think as time goes on we'll have more and more
information that will be able to It'll come out pass on and which leads me to
a little lake property and I'm just wondering what the status of that is where
that stands as far as the cleanup is concerned Region Development as such or you
don't have to answer it I'm just giving you questions we don't have all the answers
at your fingertips I can answer that that is part of the question dirty
a properties that have yet to be resolved and we did
a major cleanup with the old kiln building and I believe it is that. It's not
developable yet but the major cleanup prob issues have been taken care of when that
building was torn down and carted off but it's my understanding that from the
environment environmental depart are I can you know argue division here
that there is some funding is available for educational projects and so that there
might be
a way to be able to fund something around the marsh in order for it more educational
You know the educational component that they wanted to add on to the marsh in order
to make it bigger for lectures
a cetera so there is some money available at the state level that we can apply for
a project but Susan and I have
a dream and so we're just thinking about what we're going to be able to do with
a little late property so. So we'll stay on that one does H.S.
You pay sales tax to Arcadia the bookstore the bookstore Yeah I believe so yes
OK
a private entity now other contracted organisation alright and I'm going to
OK I guess that's it of that I have I don't know it's just I just figure we'll just
be passing things out and thinking about things and see what we can do that will be
advantageous from that and I'm really sorry that our community development director
was unable to go to this conference because it had so much to do with things that
would have been important for the Community Development Department. Right thank you
moving down this way who wants to go first go first let's see I went to
a being of the market
a house partnership board and that was interesting there they seem to get along
very well together the organisation is urging effectively arcade
a house that I children. One there was one area of concern that Fox also
the executive director joked
a little bit about but it sounds like they're sort of skating on the edge of the
restriction that the city put on of of that people who going there had to be
clients and that it could be
a drop in facility so we need to make sure that they are employed and they will
comply or your staff has been talking about that is the latest today and there has
been star staff is particular transportation staff and recreation or park staff
has has been concerned about some increased problems in the area and I've talked to
the police chief about this and asked for some increased police presence in the
area. So I don't know if these I don't know that these people are associated with
the arcade
a house partnership but they are hanging in the area I think it's becoming
a problem for for all involved so it's hopefully will have some. Greater tension in
that area and kind of take care of some of the problem people there. It's
Michael's term but my understanding is says that individual stars showing up there
figuring they could have a free lunch etc because all of
a sudden it was active there were people there and had been closed down for so long
but that they all of a sudden got
a different. Clientele that they were expecting when my understanding of the the
contract with them is that people have to be clients and they have to be under Case
Management and they just can't people just can't drop it all that correct and I
think the problem though is the people that are outside right now that are smoking
and drinking near the transportation facility in particular so I we've been getting
some complaints my transportation staff so. I'm very confident that our our police
department can make some improvements in that area and in terms of people that are
breaking laws and teaching them to not or or have them move on.
And then yesterday went to
a meeting I mean three which frankly happened that meeting did not happen in
February for
a couple reasons one first that Jennifer got the flu and then she had to go to
a conference the next week and Originally she was going to show up for
a delayed meeting anyway but it would have meant that she would have to drive all
night and I think she decided it was unsafe so we didn't have any real.
But there are. They lost some people on the board and they're recruiting new board
members and so
a couple prospective board members showed up and they also have
a new president David I think kind of have the right and Ira. They were it's
the. Now I think it's any why Ari It's not even sure of different
you know. Who's the new board president and.
Looks like they're actually working one thing that was very positive is that it
sounds like they have
a greatly improved relationship with the Chamber of Commerce So they had been at
odds in the past they're very they met with Sandy Scott the executive director of
the chamber and it looks like that relationship is actually. Really good that
they're now operating in
a very cooperative way and they also talked about. Having
that the crabs have
a presence in the in the office of. Main Street in the.
Storehouse and to be able to have give people information on the crab cells sell it
and stick it and have
a crab or paraphernalia and so it sounds like that's it's
a good relationship there to see Today I attended a meeting of
a Transit Authority board and. There's been
a major changes far as their accounting system so that today we had
a report from the auditors and that they're sort of growing pains in and changing
from a of a looser to
a lot more structured accounting system with the with the relative we.
Financial person for for H.D.
It looks like that it's going be
a lot tighter but there are certain certain growing pains and transitions that
they're going through right now that the South Humboldt service is is
still local is still not making a farebox ratio so that's
a concern about whether that's going to be viable long long term the inner city is
continues to do well and looks like it's going to be just fine the south of Boulder
City and the other funding. We did talk about Sunday my impression is doing OK.
And they just got two new buses for.
The other is the other change is that as part of
a new contract with the. With the employees and with the
drivers they're going to be making some major changes their schedules and it looks
like they may have
a mixed system in which they're going to have some smaller buses in there are
thinking about what the transfer point would be switching from is what what they're
finding is that north of H.
Issue and south of culture the redwoods that the buses that are running are much
too big and they're using
a lot more fuel so what they're thinking about doing is having Trent is having
a transfer so they're running smaller buses on these more outlying areas that have
fewer passengers.
And that is all going to have. OK I have kind of
a list here. Building on what the police chief was just talking about and since we
were really off the air. There's going to be
a meeting about neighborhood to get neighborhood watch information so it's
a March twenty eighth six thirty P.M.
Sunday brace school it's intended for the neighborhood but anyone's is welcome to
come it won't be really a neighborhood watch meeting because it's it's
a little too broad of an area to have that type of meeting but the idea is to get
information out I wanted what
a neighborhood watch program could be and how people could organize it and things
like that so that's March twenty eighth sunny Bay school at six thirty P.M.
. And then today I had the. Honor of getting to help serve the senior
lunches that was so much fun I really want to encourage If you've never done it to
do it some time they said through this month or you know years go around fast
enough next year maybe but it's just really what
a wonderful wonderful program for people we bring we bring them
a lunch you check in on them I mean most of these people I have to say you know
we're I shouldn't say most but I think everyone was over eighty and some were over
ninety and they've lived in their house for you know fifty seventy years it was
pretty wonderful program really so it's just it's
a great experience and insecurity of people who maybe don't see all the time. So
that was really great and so if you want to do that that's the senior resource
center contact. Let's see.
Caltrans really wants to make
a presentation to our kids city council before they go before the Coastal
Commission so I sent you an email about that but I just want to bring it up and
mention it and hopefully will go for this it's looking they're hoping to do it
something in April. So I was suggesting that the second week in April does not to
be too long we know it but they've they've made they've they've heard this is
somebody. I think the city council meeting the second meeting that that's what on
thinking. This it maybe I would work and partly that's because I'm not going to be
here on April third I'm going to be down at
a Cal called meeting so I thought it me nice to be here for this but I'll actually
see there's going to be
a presentation on the one chord or it Thursday tomorrow at four so if anyone the
public wants to see that or wait till April here. My best understanding of it is
that. They will give me
a quickie understanding of it is that they're looking to do the whole bang between
one hundred one and that Caltrans state level Caltrans is willing to chip in the
rest of the money compared to what we had kind of
a half for the for the over the overpass and the trail they have heard they've got
religion they understand that we want the trail and that's one try I was trying to
get Dave to understand that it's really the Caltrans now working with the county
and city of Eureka and they've committed at least
a million dollars towards the trial and you know hopefully more just keep going and
I keep calling it
a class one trail right that's what it is right so. I think they understand that
and so they want to make that presentation because what they recognize is if they
could go to the Coastal Commission really with the support of all the people here
that yes we see this and this is
a transportation you know motive we want to. Upgrade we need it will be much better
in line for funding for the trail for other amenities we want to do you know. And
just to get in to get the state funds because while they want to do it they hasn't
been committed yet to do the full project so I know the full project is slightly
controversial with some people but if you really I travel that corridor fairly
often and maybe you do too and if you drive it but if you've ever tried to turn one
of those medians it is pretty scary So anyway they want to do
a presentation and they're really hoping to be able to go to the coast to coast and
with as much support as possible. And then I was at
a redwood Coast Energy Authority meeting on Monday they're doing really good
there's so many great things going on with our CEA what they are moving so I just
want to let people know that they will buy
a Anyway so I think I think they'll still be where they are in April but by at
least by may be moving to six thirty three Third Street the old it's an old
engineering office that I can't remember exactly I think it'll be the same phone
number yeah we are in Cali. And then just to build on what council member Stillman
mentioned about the Local Government Commission meeting it really was very
stimulating I was wary to go at one point thinking it might be snowing and stuff
and coming home I was just like oh Alex thank you thank you thank you for get me to
go on this it was very. Just stimulating I guess is the only word I can think right
now it's
a little too tired but one of the main things I would like to say and it really is
kind of captured my attention is well optimize on your assets you know and here we
have this beautiful day and we do have the whole Marsh system up there and that is
optimizing on that asset but we're not optimizing it nearly enough you know. I
think I don't think we you know it's kind of like our back door and really it's
a it's
a beautiful realm so. Those are things this is just to really encourage us in ways
I mean without the redevelopment monies what they're saying is really use your
assets use your physical assets use your citizens and you know and as we were
talking about even neighborhood watch with the with lack of funds it can be said
Jose gave us an interesting presentation that they found that actually it was it's
almost been beneficial to them I mean although no one likes to give out money and
thinks thinks it's beneficial but when you have money you can insulate yourself
from other people you don't have to ask people to help you so you don't have to you
know but when you don't have money you have to you have to go out and reach out
into people and so you know we're reaching out to the neighborhood watch but we can
be doing this on economic development and in other asked sent to so just really
thinking about all the people we have this is maybe
a time to give them opportunity just to step up so. That's just kind of
a potential way of thinking about this time we have where we don't have too many
funds right now so that's. Thank you you have
something you want to add Well I just want maybe you're going to mention it
tomorrow night is the Parks and Recreation committees having
a special meeting on the river park master plan and that's going to be at six
o'clock and and it's something. That's an important meeting to figure out how to
use bread with Park also the Parks and Recreation Commission Committee which made
it
a decision on map of the movie because there's two locations let's say the Film Commission
is interested in being able to put signage up for different areas in the community
for movies and we have two in Arcadia and so they were going to be dealing with
that I did go to I should just say you know you'll think I did nothing I went to
there what waste management meeting today which was
a study session to learn more about what they were doing as an alternate and I did
go to the Arcadia chamber as
a liaison meeting and right now the other liaison's are Arcadia Main Street the
visitor and convention bureau are both there and also they would like the Film
Commission So it's it's really quite large now as far as representation and cross
information and so one of the thoughts for I did have
a meeting to for the Humboldt lodge Alliance which has nothing to do with the
council but one of my thoughts is that the Right now the welcome center is not open
California welcome centers not open on Sundays and I'm thinking it would be
a wise thing for the humble lodging alliance to figure out how to keep that
available and keep it open on Sundays that will probably be right around eight
thousand dollars
a year in order to do that so I'm hoping that our money that we have an arcade it
will go towards that project I just wonder what you know there. And.
I don't know what else is happening right now so I sat here and went through it
with Mark and I was. Just. I don't think anyone thinks that
I can. Meet your definition of
know through
a few things here that if the overloaded she was actually on there and about this I
won't be here at the fourth. Fourth I mean I won't be here either.
Are you. Going to mention that I didn't have
a quorum I'll be here in thirty I will too. So to be the guys.
Realize that we have to have
a courtroom. In order to proceed. Leaving town.
OK Thank you. For weeks I attended the eyeball and.
I don't remember. It was yes Alex was dressed
like Green Lantern and she chose to deputize me is Kate Oh yeah so that was.
Green Hornet. Yeah. I think that we got our
superheroes mixed up. It was the green I know that I was told that that's
who I was for the evening so I. Had
a great time and I want to think Kevin who very thin and you know Mark Andre and
everyone that pulled that together and it was
a pleasure hearing. Marc Lovelace belt out rock music
and see him play an electric guitar it was seeing him in
a different light. Lots of fun I can only imagine what kind of blowout
party they're going to have next year when Kevin moves on from the I. Attended
a. Meeting of the humble Waste Management Authority we received
a report from John shelter formerly of the north coast Resource Center now with his
new directions program which he's running
a business and he talked about some of the work he was doing out at the. Marsh and
some other areas mostly in Eureka and also in Fortuna helping to clean trash and
recyclables out of those areas so it was an interesting take on. Waste Management
and waste collection. We recognize. Board member Sherman Shapiro for his years of
service to H. W.
May be stepping down from his seat and passing it on to one of his fellow council
members I believe it. Or Lana. And
Sherman has been an H.B.O.
May since it was formed in prior to that he was on each C.W.
In May The whole county Waste Management Authority so he really was the
institutional memory there longer than even any staff it served and so he's
promised to stick around and provide advice but having
a changing of the guard there and. I see
Also it may we reviewed our hauling contract with home obey forest products
and we decided that probably the best thing to do is to can he continue on with
them for a year well we take
a look at what kind of volume we have coming out of the landfill because of the
Phase one closure we've done and so that could stabilize
a little bit and there are also some changes happening in the I think the
regulations for the trucks that will be that are used for Leach
a hauling So at the end of about one year period then we will go out for an
R.F.P.
And. Give some other folks an opportunity to. Submit
proposals for the hauling and. Let's see we also took
a position in support of statewide plastic bag legislation consistent with
positions that. We've already taken in the past that legislation is back at the
state level and then also. I attended. Speaking.
Alone It's what I spoke at H S U and she's co-founder of the United Farm Workers
Union and it was just another reminder of all the cool cultural and political and
economic benefits that H S U brings to the community the multicultural center
organize that event and she spoke about labor organizing and immigrant rights and I
stood in line for two hours with
a bunch of college students to get her autograph and to meet her it was
a lot of fun so I wanted to thank the multicultural center and humble state for
bringing her to Humboldt County and then along the same lines since I'm working
a lot with organized labor these days I went out to an informational picket at St
Joseph's Hospital with the California Nurses Association and they're really
concerned about staffing levels they're not
a even fighting over wages right now they're concerned about workloads and patient
safety and care because they feel like they're understaffed so there was
a big rally out there and. That's
a continuing struggle for them and that's all I got. All right any last minute.
You know all right so that brings us to dates of future meetings and we have none
on there although there are always future meetings no closed session or closed
session report outs so we are adjourned.